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    Seriously?

    No one is talking about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Seriously?

    No one is talking about this?

    @madmins - Searched everywhere. Couldn't find a thread talking about this. Please merge if another thread already exists.
    There was much more interest in it in 2014 because the USA had qualified for the World Cup. This year they didn't, so understandably there is much less enthusiasm for it among Americans (still the vast majority forum members).

    That being said, as a German who didn't watch the match against Mexico but heard the Mexicans won deservedly and that our national team was terrible I have rather low expectations for this year. The lastsemi-final against Brazil was epic, more so than the final against Argentina, so it's extremely hard to repeat that and very easy to disappoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post

    That being said, as a German who didn't watch the match against Mexico but heard the Mexicans won deservedly and that our national team was terrible I have rather low expectations for this year. The lastsemi-final against Brazil was epic, more so than the final against Argentina, so it's extremely hard to repeat that and very easy to disappoint.
    I overslept and only watched some summaries, but I wouldn't say terrible. Second half of match both teams seemed as were on a par. It's truth though that during first half there were parts when it seemed like Germany team barely followed where was the ball.

    I think part of the Mexico success was that contrary to some other South American teams (like Brazil) they didn't let the other team make them play "European football" based on passes, instead they played what they're good at with quick individual actions. To compare watching Brazil I was making jokes that only Neymar got permission to dribble.
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    So far my favourite match was England Vs Tunisia. Nothing like creating chances over and over again, to fail over and over again but to finally score the winner. When it happens you can never hold back a loud 'yessssssss'.

    I cant believe I was cheering England . They surely deserved to win for the massive number of chances they created.

    So far VAR has been extremely frustrating. England was unlucky twice, Argentina ones and today Japan. What's the point of VAR if they don't notify the referee? It's frustrating to watch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kas View Post
    I overslept and only watched some summaries, but I wouldn't say terrible. Second half of match both teams seemed as were on a par. It's truth though that during first half there were parts when it seemed like Germany team barely followed where was the ball.

    I think part of the Mexico success was that contrary to some other South American teams (like Brazil) they didn't let the other team make them play "European football" based on passes, instead they played what they're good at with quick individual actions. To compare watching Brazil I was making jokes that only Neymar got permission to dribble.
    So true. Their counterattacks were incredibly fast. Not many passes.

    You seem like a huge fan Kas 😊
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    So far my favourite match was England Vs Tunisia. Nothing like creating chances over and over again, to fail over and over again but to finally score the winner. When it happens you can never hold back a loud 'yessssssss'.

    I cant believe I was cheering England . They surely deserved to win for the massive number of chances they created.
    Usually you don't like English team?

    So far VAR has been extremely frustrating. England was unlucky twice, Argentina ones and today Japan. What's the point of VAR if they don't notify the referee? It's frustrating to watch.
    I agree about it. So far I haven't seen it influencing much decisions of judges.


    So true. Their counterattacks were incredibly fast. Not many passes.

    You seem like a huge fan Kas 😊
    I used to be a huge fan. Nowadays I'm just a fan
    Still I almost got a heart attack while watching my team in Poland-Senegal. Own goal, second one - I have no idea what happened. And why the hell they keep Milik in the team...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    as a German who didn't watch the match against Mexico but heard the Mexicans won deservedly and that our national team was terrible
    They were terrible due to a terrible squad selection. Leroy Sane was a stand out player for a Manchester city squad that broke multiple premier league records and yet somehow he can't earn a spot on the German national team? What a joke.

    Meanwhile, for some reason Thomas Mueller is playing on the wing, which is interesting because I've only seem him do well as a shadow striker. He's a tricky player with great awareness and the uncanny knack of being in the right place at the right time, but lacks the pace and dribbling skills of the traditional wingers on Bayern Munich like Robben or Ribery. Heck, I would have played Reus as a winger before Mueller, and I think part of the problem is that Ozil, despite playing on an Arsenal team that placed 6th in the premier league, is seen as "untouchable." Replace ozil with Mueller and have Draxler and Sane on the wings, and then when Draxler plays terrible (as he did vs mexico) replace him Reus.

    Meanwhile Khedira has always been over rated in my book, and I would have played İlkay Gündoğan alongside Kroos because he too has had an incredible season with Man City and was also instrumental for Dortmund when they won the bundesliga and made it to the champions league final.

    All in all when you look at the world's most talented players like Bale, Benzema and Sane then it becomes pretty ridiculous that they're not being featured in the world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    @Kas

    I watched the Tunisia vs England match in a bar with some of my work colleagues.

    And I can agree: the commentary is appalling. Being English myself it's frustrating to see them play old footage of the 1966 world cup....yet again! It demonstrates how little they understand their fans since there was a collective moan in the packed bar (and it was a theme bar not a pub) when it came on. As far as I can tell we want a well-trained and considered team that isn't arrogantly overblown or harking on about past successes (well....singular success).

    Although having said that, did you see Harry Kane getting wrestled to the ground on at least two occasions?

    I don't normally even like football or sports, but I like an occasional social gathering and I was actually getting into it. That 2nd goal off the head at 90 mins was great.
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    ^ glad to see an Englishman agreeing with me. It seems you and I are not alone.

    Oh yeah English players were fouled TWICE inside the penalty area. I think it was Harry Kane both times. Most people assumed that after VAR was introduced most of the foul play would get caught but apparently we celebrated too early. Same happened to Argentina inside the penalty area. And in yesterday's match of Poland Vs Senegal a goal was scored illegally but again VAR was silent. It's so frustrating.

    However Poland yesterday played poorly and didn't create much chances.

    Omgosh yes, I loved Kane's goal. Came after 90 minutes which must have been extremely frustrating to the Tunisians but it wouldn't have been so frustrating to lose a match at the last moment if those two fouls were given. England would have scored atleast ones.

    English commentators were asking whether Kane would score a hatrick before the match even started. Fans are like whaaaat? But he did come close. Lolz.

    I wonder whether they are too thick to realize that by over expecting from their players they are only putting them under pressure.
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    Ronaldo scores again. Amazing. Everytime he loses respect for diving and scoring penalties he recovers that respect by scoring a few vital goals and winning the match. Such amazing talent and hard work.

    Apparently he has surpassed Puscas's european goal record. Poor Hungary was robbed from a world cup victory by a bad refereeing decision in the 50s.
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