Star Wars VIII: The Last Jedi

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Early reports says this is the best film since the Empire Strikes Back. I'm pumped, at any rate. For some reason, there's a theater near me showing it on Thursday, not Friday.

 

[Population: 1]

Since Empire? Man that’s a hard act to follow. Empire is still my favorite. I’ll be psyched if it’s true.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Since Empire? Man that’s a hard act to follow. Empire is still my favorite. I’ll be psyched if it’s true.

Well, that was what one person said. Another person said that it's been the best film since the OT, but I've found that to be true for every movie in the Disney era. TFA was better than ROTS, but RO was better than TFA.

And to be honest, I probably prefer Jedi to Empire, although Empire is probably the better film. I just like seeing Luke at the height of his powers, and the dual and space battle are pretty awesome, although I admit that the stuff with the Ewoks is kind of weak.

 

[Population: 1]

Well, that was what one person said. Another person said that it's been the best film since the OT, but I've found that to be true for every movie in the Disney era. TFA was better than ROTS, but RO was better than TFA.

And to be honest, I probably prefer Jedi to Empire, although Empire is probably the better film. I just like seeing Luke at the height of his powers, and the dual and space battle are pretty awesome, although I admit that the stuff with the Ewoks is kind of weak.

Aside from a complete lack of Ewoks, I always liked Empire because it was the middle film or middle of the story where things seem bleakest. Plus Vader at the top of his game. I’m a dour fellow. lol

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Well, that was what one person said. Another person said that it's been the best film since the OT, but I've found that to be true for every movie in the Disney era. TFA was better than ROTS, but RO was better than TFA.

And to be honest, I probably prefer Jedi to Empire, although Empire is probably the better film. I just like seeing Luke at the height of his powers, and the dual and space battle are pretty awesome, although I admit that the stuff with the Ewoks is kind of weak.

I'd like it if they'd been able to do their original idea of the Wookie planet instead of Ewoks. Otherwise, Jedi is a damn solid film. It does feel a bit rushed but I think that is often the problem with third parts in trilogies. It's always hard to follow a really powerful second act. Jedi feels like one long resolution after the climax of the previous film, but then I suppose that was sort of the point. It certainly had the best space battles, they still look good to this day, that's saying a lot. I'd actually like it if Han died in Jedi, like Ford wanted. His character doesn't feel as necessary, he sort of just putters around for a good portion of the movie, and he acts a bit like an oaf, maybe the time in carbon freeze damaged his brain. He should've been in the space battle with Lando and Wedge. Perhaps he sacrifices himself to destroy the death star or something, a la Randy Quaid in Independence Day

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

I have a feeling Luke isn't going to make it to the end of this trilogy alive. I have mostly been avoiding trailers, btw. I want to go into this film with absolutely zero expectations.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I'd like it if they'd been able to do their original idea of the Wookie planet instead of Ewoks. Otherwise, Jedi is a damn solid film. It does feel a bit rushed but I think that is often the problem with third parts in trilogies. It's always hard to follow a really powerful second act. Jedi feels like one long resolution after the climax of the previous film, but then I suppose that was sort of the point. It certainly had the best space battles, they still look good to this day, that's saying a lot. I'd actually like it if Han died in Jedi, like Ford wanted. His character doesn't feel as necessary, he sort of just putters around for a good portion of the movie, and he acts a bit like an oaf, maybe the time in carbon freeze damaged his brain. He should've been in the space battle with Lando and Wedge. Perhaps he sacrifices himself to destroy the death star or something, a la Randy Quaid in Independence Day

Well, Ford got his wish eventually, hah.

 

[BAD1973]

So excited! Tomorrow!!!

When I was a kid, RotJ was my favorite because of Ewoks, powerful Luke and how pretty Leia was with her hair down at the end.

Now that I've seen them enough times to quote, Empire is my all-time favorite movie of any genre.

 

[Population: 1]

I’d like to add that I miss [MENTION=7]Totenkindly[/MENTION]. I hope all is well with you.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Saw it. Almost exactly what I wanted from a Star WArs movie.

Almost everything I wanted to happen did, and very little of it was the terrible popular theories of fanboys. It's respectful of the past but has the courage to do it's own thing, which is exactly what Star Wars needs. I think it really brought mystique back to the Force.

The only disappointment? I would have liked to have seen the green saber in something other than a flashback. Still, I would say Luke acted in this movie the way Yoda should have acted in the prequels.

And no, it's nothing like the Empire Strikes Back.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Looking at Reddit now and reading the leak subreddit. God, fanboys are the worst.

 

[senza tema]

Enjoyed it but still think Rogue One was much better.

 

[BAD1973]

I loved it. It wasn't what I expected, but it was exactly what it needed to be.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I loved it. It wasn't what I expected, but it was exactly what it needed to be.

So much this. Combined with Rogue One, I'm getting the Star Wars movies I always wanted. I didn't hate the prequels as much as some, but I accept that they are flawed films. TFA was better, but a little too safe narratively and visually, and it's biggest surprise was too predictable because of the way it was shot.

I have no idea how my theater got away with showing it a day early, but I'm glad they did. There was one cheesy moment that's kind of already getting hammered to death, but let's face the facts that Star Wars has had cheese ever since Luke complained about power convertors. People even make fun of beloved Empire's most famous moment all the time.

I always wondered what it must have been like to see the OT in theaters when they were new ( I saw the Special Editions in 97 which really helped make me a fan, although I'd seen ANH and Empire on video before). This really gave me that feeling. I felt like I was 10 years old, watching the trench run again. And dare I say it, I even found it inspiring?

 

[BAD1973]

I saw the originals in the theater, though I don't remember A New Hope. I was very young.

I thought the cheesy moments were perfect. Even the best of the Star Wars films had their share of cheese. I love it. Our theater clapped and cheered several times.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Enjoyed it but still think Rogue One was much better.

It was actually a more upbeat movie than Rogue One, I felt. I love Rogue One too, but I really like the final notes this one hit, especially these days. It's hard to say which one I enjoy more. Both handle a feeling of desperation well, but this one had a bit more humor and optimism along with that. I think I'll give the edge to TLJ.

Again, I'm so happy that the dumb theories are wrong.

Snoke is Mace Windu/Darth Plagueis (for some reason people have been insisting Mace was secretly evil since TPM). (Snoke comes off as more malevolent and interesting here, but he's ultimately kind of a red herring. So unexpected.)
Luke is the real big bag.
Luke is evil now... it's backed up by the posters.
"From my point of view the Jedi are evil" (religious cultists just like the Sith... nothing is worse to internet atheist neckbeards.)
Rose betrays Finn.
Kylo gets redeemed. (The movie plays with this and cleverly subverts it.. Kylo becomes more complex, sinister and interesting here.)
Rey goes dark and Kylo has to save him.
Rey is Obi-Wan's granddaughter/Luke's illegitimate child/ Han and Leia's daughter that they abandoned for some reason which they didn't do to Kylo/ Palpatine's granddaughter/Snoke's granddaughter.

Fanboys love to criticize Lucas but a lot of this stuff isn't any better than what he came up with for the prequels.

feel like Luke and Yoda were both handled in this movie more like the way the Jedi should have been handled in the prequels. Yoda shows up, but he's more like TESB/ROTJ Yoda than ROTS/AOTC Yoda, who is a lot less interesting.

I also love Space Montecarlo, Ach-To with it's space walruses, sea monsters and porgs, and Crait with its underground caverns and weird red dust.

The only location in TFA that I really found interesting is Ach-To (which shows up for thirty seconds), Maz's castle, and the forest on Starkiller base.

 

[BAD1973]

I couldn't agree more about the dumb theories. I think this one set the next one up perfectly.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I couldn't agree more about the dumb theories. I think this one set the next one up perfectly.

I almost liked this post, and then I remembered that I took a vow to never do that again. I still approve, though.

 

[anticlimatic]

It's a slow, mostly forgettable rehashing of the empire strikes back (in reverse, kind of). I felt like either nothing was happening, or too much was happening all at once and too quickly. Lots of political subtext to pander to the SJW kiddies. The fan pandering was much better. I chuckled a couple times, particularly hard when they busted out the rickety bullshit speeders on Hoth 2.0. Both Luke and Leia are well done, same goes for all the actors (though I didn't particularly care for benecio del toro or the chinese awkward cliche girl).

Still nowhere near as good as any of the original trilogy. Not likely better than part 7.