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Siúil a Rúin

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This may upset people, but I think early Taylor Swift was had a sincerity and feeling about her expression, although not particularly unique. She has always had a conventionality about her that makes her accessible to large masses of people. The stuff I see and hear now seems absurd to the point of silly. It's painful to hear/watch.
 

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Lately, Ed Sheeran and Kesha (who?). My chronic cynicism must be catching up with me, I can't figure out their appeal to this generation. Older acts: Morrissey, REM, Hall and Oates (I like them), just Jim Morrison by himself, Talking Heads, Kanye West, Rage Against the Machine, Nirvana, The White Stripes, Bob Dylan, Imagine Dragons and Nickleback right at the bottom.
I like a lot of those but agree with all if them. Especially Nirvana.
 

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This may upset people, but I think early Taylor Swift was had a sincerity and feeling about her expression, although not particularly unique. She has always had a conventionality about her that makes her accessible to large masses of people. The stuff I see and hear now seems absurd to the point of silly. It's painful to hear/watch.
Yep. Have never understood it.. I could contrast it with Avril Lavigne from several years ago that had the talent and was unique.
 

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This may upset people, but I think early Taylor Swift was had a sincerity and feeling about her expression, although not particularly unique. She has always had a conventionality about her that makes her accessible to large masses of people. The stuff I see and hear now seems absurd to the point of silly. It's painful to hear/watch.

Meh I can agree with this as a longtime fan. I feel like Reputation was a step back into a more interesting direction, but I wasn't big on 1989, a majority of the lead singles of RED like 22 and WANEGBT, and thus far I am debating if "Lover" is going to send me back to the pits with feeling like she spends too much time kissing asses right now. I still feel Speak Now was the best thing she has done and likely will ever do. I feel like when she went full "pop" she started to lose what made her Taylor Swift and I'm wondering if I really...you know connect with it anymore. I was all for the middle finger that was Reputation, I am sick of her flipping herself to be in people's good graces though. You sing haters gonna hate then try to make everyone happy. I can't even with her sometimes.

***fan vent***
 

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I think early Taylor Swift was had a sincerity and feeling about her expression, although not particularly unique. She has always had a conventionality about her that makes her accessible to large masses of people. The stuff I see and hear now seems absurd to the point of silly. It's painful to hear/watch.

Brendon Urie, guilty of temporary insanity, appearing with her in this idiotic performance:

 

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Brendon Urie, guilty of temporary insanity, appearing with her in this idiotic performance:


Brendan Urie is a bit overrated himself. I think he does have a good voice but musical content wise he has been slowly washing down the content.

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Yep. Have never understood it.. I could contrast it with Avril Lavigne from several years ago that had the talent and was unique.

Avril greatly disappointed me because she gave up her uniqueness too and just sings about never growing up now...when she is 30...not exactly flattering. XD
 

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Can't stand Kanye.

Can anyone actually stand Kanye now?
I mean, I am not a huge rap music fan, and I likely didn't hear him at his best...but his music now is just god awful. the fact he still has fans amazes me.
 

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And your thoughts on Swift's song?

I think you could read above that I have fully admitted to being a somewhat disappointed swiftie in the recent times.

I liked Taylor for starters. Do I think she wrote about something unique? Not necessarily - but a lot of musicians write about love and loss. She just did it in a way which made her stand out to me, her voice and presentation. She was relatable. Speak Now by far to me is her best work. She went sans cowriters, did the whole thing herself, and didn't care if the song was almost 7 minutes. After that she started dabbling in the pop machine.

I am not saying RED was bad. Red had some amazing tracks, All Too Well, I Almost Do, but she also wrote 22 and We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together... 1989 was worse lyrically. It actually upset me. She claimed she intended to show you could be meaningfully "pop" yet she watered down her own lyrics. I was one of those swift fans saying they may be done with her when she crossed over.

I admit, I actually LOVED Reputation. I loved her big middle finger to all the bullshit. The proof in the pudding, how she was successful and sold out stadiums while the media claimed she was cancelled and over. So I admit, this new album era is pissing me off because I feel like Taylor is now going back to ass kissing. With her most recent single, suddenly being so politically "woke", she's back to doing anything that'll get her in the good graces of social media. At what cost? A bunch of fake fans and backstabbing your real ones? Like...Taylor used to say something and stand by it. Now it is hard to know what personality she is going to wear next week. And it is kind of crappy too, because she is also nearly 30. She should be comfortable with herself at this point. She literally just had proof she did not need to be in the eyes good graces, and after a big middle finger she goes back to kissing their feet.

So needless to say I'm actually an "angry" fan right now. XD
 

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I think you could read above that I have fully admitted to being a somewhat disappointed swiftie in the recent times.

I liked Taylor for starters. Do I think she wrote about something unique? Not necessarily - but a lot of musicians write about love and loss. She just did it in a way which made her stand out to me, her voice and presentation. She was relatable. Speak Now by far to me is her best work. She went sans cowriters, did the whole thing herself, and didn't care if the song was almost 7 minutes. After that she started dabbling in the pop machine.

I am not saying RED was bad. Red had some amazing tracks, All Too Well, I Almost Do, but she also wrote 22 and We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together... 1989 was worse lyrically. It actually upset me. She claimed she intended to show you could be meaningfully "pop" yet she watered down her own lyrics. I was one of those swift fans saying they may be done with her when she crossed over.

I admit, I actually LOVED Reputation. I loved her big middle finger to all the bullshit. The proof in the pudding, how she was successful and sold out stadiums while the media claimed she was cancelled and over. So I admit, this new album era is pissing me off because I feel like Taylor is now going back to ass kissing. With her most recent single, suddenly being so politically "woke", she's back to doing anything that'll get her in the good graces of social media. At what cost? A bunch of fake fans and backstabbing your real ones? Like...Taylor used to say something and stand by it. Now it is hard to know what personality she is going to wear next week. And it is kind of crappy too, because she is also nearly 30. She should be comfortable with herself at this point. She literally just had proof she did not need to be in the eyes good graces, and after a big middle finger she goes back to kissing their feet.

So needless to say I'm actually an "angry" fan right now. XD

Re: what's in bold - then how does one know what was—or is—true of such a person? For all you know, what you once thought was authentic was an act.
 

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Ariana Grande overrated.

Someone should start a companion thread for underrated.
 

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Re: what's in bold - then how does one know what was—or is—true of such a person? For all you know, what you once thought was authentic was an act.

exactly. why its hard.
 

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At least 80% of music from my part of the world. Seriously.



ETC. ETC. ETC.


You just can't believe what fills stadiums here. The last one has 100+ million views ... probably since it gets mistaken for porn. :D
 

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BTS and most other k-pop groups.

Honestly I had a friend who was super duper obsessed with K-pop, so I ended up trying some of her groups. While I don't think K-pop is bad, what I do not get is these people who... act like K-pop is revolutionary or better than pop from other places. To me, most K-pop sounds like 2000's boybands. Seriously. And I don't mind that sound at all, it is good. But I also rather listen to music where I know wtf they are saying too.

What's the hype to listening to shit you don't know what you are listening to? If you cannot speak Korean you don't really know...
 

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What's the hype to listening to shit you don't know what you are listening to? If you cannot speak Korean you don't really know...
I agree. K-pop sounds like you've gone into a time-warp.

I had two friends who were really obsessed with k-pop in high school, one with boy groups and one with girl groups. The girl who liked boy groups said her particular favorite was revolutionary and I kept thinking to myself, "This is foolish. They're manufactured. Yes, their sound's a bit different but it's nothing special." So I spent a summer trying to get to know these people through the Internet and see things from her point of view. The culture that surrounds k-pop can be quite endearing because fans feel like they've really connected to the artists, but the ultimate problem is the language barrier, and even more so, the cultural barrier. There is one singer in my former friend's favorite group that speaks English fairly well, but he stills misses nuances from American or just anglophone culture as a whole and they still hold him up as the expert. The popularity of k-pop is ever-expanding into different realms, and they can't keep up with the language and cultural demands. So they seek out idols from different countries that serve as unofficial translators and appeal to the masses in those "underserved" populations of fans. They already have their claws in Chinese and Japanese markets, and have started expanding to Spanish-speaking markets (in terms of languages they produce songs in). I speak Spanish pretty well, and I tried listening to one of these supposedly professionally produced works, but I couldn't understand it because it was so lazily pronounced. It sounded like a mixture of Korean and English, forced to sound like Spanish. The Spanish-speaking fans apparently went crazy for it, though.

Korean culture can be highly interesting because it's ancient and new at the same time. But at the same time it has its problems and koreaboos seem to gloss over all the problems even though there are new generations of fans that try to be fresh and cool by educating themselves. They're also the same fans that obsess over their favorite idol's mental health and take to Twitter to try to get their idols' foreign label to treat them right, or get a music video taken down because they see misogyny in it and don't understand Korea hasn't come as far as the US has with treating women better, and it's a different country.

I could go on and on about it, especially about how everyone thinks BTS are angels and are akin to gods.

They actually did a study about why BTS is so popular, and one of the reasons why is because it's in a different language. People want to feel different and cool because no one else can understand what that person is listening to.

If I'm wrong here, please let me know. I'm mostly a casual fan and observer.
 

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Seriously. I don't like him. No joke.
 

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At least 80% of music from my part of the world. Seriously.



ETC. ETC. ETC.


You just can't believe what fills stadiums here. The last one has 100+ million views ... probably since it gets mistaken for porn. :D

What about Vitas (from the Ukraine)?

It's not too bad. A little Ziggy Stardust-esque, I suppose.
 
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