Black Mirror (UK)

[Totenkindly]

Yeah thank god for Tom Hardy or it would have been even more dull. The story lacked substance. And yeah the cinematography was exceptional but forced. Arty Farty kind of. I mean 2 minutes of water dripping from trees ?

Well, I enjoy movies that make you feel like you're there, and I like the wild. But it was the small stuff in that movie (aside from the bear scene) that impacted me... like the situation with his son and what little was shown of their relationship.

Di Caprio should have gotten his Oscar for Shutter Island instead of Revenant. The Oscars never make sense

Or What's Eating Gilbert Grape. Or The Wolf of Wall Street. Or The Departed.

He basically won for The Revenant because, although he did a decent job, he had been robbed too many other years when he should have won something. So accumulated value bumped him over the top.

I liked Tom Hardy a lot in The Drop. He's great.

He's quite the versatile actor, I think that's what makes him impressive. He melts into his roles as well.

 

[meowington]

Or What's Eating Gilbert Grape.

Definitely.

 

[meowington]

My opinion on "men against fire" :

Not as visually pleasing as some other episodes. It's void of color (in high contrast with "San Junipero", the previous episode), but perhaps that was deliberate because of the subject (military).
The premise and the technology are great and plausible as usual.
I immediately recognized Madeline Brewer, from Orange is the new black Season 1. The great cast continues.
Overall I thought it was an OK episode.
The indoctrination through some biotechnique called MASS leaves you wondering and provokes critical thinking. If this series was shown in high schools it would actually serve an educational purpose.
In this episode it is implied that the villagers also fear "roaches" based on indoctrination alone, without any biotechnology. Because all too often in human history up to this day, we've seen how easily entire ethnic or geographic groups can demonize other parties.
Also the idea that we need to eradicate defective genes from the gene pool is always lurking in the shadows of humanity, with dangerous potential.
A lot of food for thought in this episode.

 

[Totenkindly]

"San Junipero" won two awards at the Emmys 2017:
- Best TV Movie (which I guess it counted as)
- Outstanding Writing award for Limited Series for Charlie Brooker for the episode!

I didn't even realize it was in the running for something.

 

[meowington]

"San Junipero" won two awards at the Emmys 2017:

Great, that was a very memorable episode. Very colorful and

a happy ending for once

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Can't wait for season 4. No idea when it's about to air. About the only reason I'm still paying for netflix.

 

[Totenkindly]

Great, that was a very memorable episode. Very colorful and

a happy ending for once

.

And it wasn't cheaply bought either. Lots of pain and pathos in that episode, I felt like it was pretty bravely done.

 

[Hive]

So, season 4 was just released, and I just finished the first episode, USS Callister.

Some thoughts:

I've accepted that the series probably won't return to the same gutwrenchingly dark tone in the first two seasons. I found that a big part of the initial appeal, but I can understand that as a writer you want to explore different emotional and conceptual territories, especially in an anthology series where the format allows more free reign with tone, as opposed to a regular series where you need to keep those things more consistent. The Star Trek homage worked pretty well and I didn't find the pastel colors and the (intentionally) parodic acting to be too jarring vis-à-vis the bleaker real world.

Daly, clearly the villain, and clearly meant to be the archetypal White Male Gamer. And while he is weak, and creepy... What exactly is his crime? He's not a sympathetic character, but neither are his victims. The episode assumes that I would care as much about an AI representation of a human being as I would an actual human being. I don't. His boss and coworkers are all worse than him, and everyone but Nanette gives him shit on the daily. Yeah, he copes by being an tyrant god in his private universe, but so what? Towards the end of the episode, he's presumably left for dead. And while this could've been typical Black Mirror fare, a man undone by his obsession with technology, this was clearly meant to be a triumphant moment as opposed to gutting or sad, which just struck me as weird.

Also... If they wanted to make him a representation of maladjusted male gamers, why would his world be genital free, lol? Sexism is a legit issue in the gaming community at large, but they just kind of swept that angle under the rug. In fact, I think most of the issues with the gaming community he was supposed to represent weren't really explored. Daly's "racism" is briefly mentioned (because he made the eastern european girl's avatar blue skinned?), but his motivations for treating them the way he does are personal. That's why Walton gets it the worst: Daly is powerless under him in real life. He doesn't target the ethnic minorities. He doesn't target the women. In fact, he seems completely uninterested in any of the women, despite the fact that he's a god in his universe and could do whatever he wanted with them (if their intention was to paint a bad picture of a male power fantasy, he'd be fucking these women every other minute). So, if Daly is supposed to be a bad White Male Gamer, why isn't he displaying behaviours that show the issues associated with them? (Note: my criticism isn't that he wasn't racist or sexist enough, it's just that if they wanted him to be representative of gaming community issues, then why this kind of characterization?)

I could of course be wrong about him being an archetype of a White Male Gamer. But I guess then I'm at loss for what the episode was really about.

I had a similar issue with this episode as I had with the S3 finale: it became an episode about beating the bad guy (who arguably isn't bad at all) rather than exploring the personal and societal consequences of powerful technology. And the whole "let's distract him with swimsuits and pizza" thing was just really dumb.

 

[Riva]

[MENTION=11809]Hive[/MENTION]

I wanted to watch the Star Wars parody episode you've mentioned above. But accidentally watched the second episode. Now I feel shitty and depressed. I also feel extremely stupid because I promised myself that I'd never watch a black mirror episode ever again. I changed my mind when I heard Star Trek being mentioned. What a fool I am.

Is the Star Trek type episode depressing too?

I am too much of a SP or a e7 or a e9 to enjoy this depressing show. Urghhhhhhhhhh.

 

[Hive]

[MENTION=11809]Hive[/MENTION]

I wanted to watch the Star Wars parody episode you've mentioned above. But accidentally watched the second episode. Now I feel shitty and depressed. I also feel extremely stupid because I promised myself that I'd never watch a black mirror episode ever again. I changed my mind when I heard Star Trek being mentioned. What a fool I am.

Is the Star Trek type episode depressing too?

I am too much of a SP or a e7 or a e9 to enjoy this depressing show. Urghhhhhhhhhh.

Without giving too much away: It's not exactly a Star Trek parody, but the Star Trek-ish stuff exists inside a VR video game one of the characters is playing. And I wouldn't call it depressing, no. The episode actually ends on a happy note (or at least a happy ending was the intention). So knock yourself out.

 

[Riva]

Without giving too much away: It's not exactly a Star Trek parody, but the Star Trek-ish stuff exists inside a VR video game one of the characters is playing. And I wouldn't call it depressing, no. The episode actually ends on a happy note (or at least a happy ending was the intention). So knock yourself out.

Watched it. You were right. Happy note ending it is. Loved it. Not going to take my chances watching more Black Mirror Episodes though .

Thanks dude.

 

[Frosty]

I love this show. This season imo was a really great addition after the more mediocre and kind of disappointing 3rd season.

My favorite episode was easily the first one. The first time I tried to watch it I stopped after like the first 5 minutes because I thought that... yeah... it was going to directly be a star trek parody. It wasnt though, it developed into something else.

(Sort of had a similar theme as one of the mini stories in the christmas episode... the one where a copy of a person is made to do all their menial labor... but this one focused more on the ‘higher power’ determining the fate of the underlings more than the reaction of the underlings themselves)

Anyways. This was my favorite episode. I liked them all really though... but the 5th one which was terminatorish was probably my least favorite.

The one about dating was the like typical light hearted episode they throw in to break up the heaviness a bit. I appreciated it but it was... kind of awkwardly thrown in there imo. Obvious what its purpose was in the season.

So yeah. The first one was my favorite this season... but my favorite of all time is White Bear.

But this season is definitely worth watching

 

[Ingrid in grids]

I'm now up to "Hang the DJ." I honestly don't have a clear favourite from the first three.

I really loved the whole visual tone of Crocodile, especially the Icelandic landscapes.

One of the greatest pleasures of watching BM is the visual diversity. So many gorgeous shots.

 

[Totenkindly]

‘Black Mirror: Bandersnatch’ Photo Features Will Poulter and Fionn Whitehead, Netflix Lists 90 Min Runtime

Black Mirror: Bandersnatch reportedly features five hours of footage




Also, congrats Black Mirror: Your (arguably) worst episode, the Waldo Moment, now appears to have manifested itself in reality, bringing new life to a rather flat episode.

 

[Totenkindly]

Season 5 released today -- three episodes. I've watched the first but have the others to watch yet.

Episode 5.01, "Striking Vipers"

This episode was disappointing in some ways but has continued to churn in the back of my mind after viewing, so that part is a positive. Maybe there was more to it, then, despite the surface detail?

There is not nearly as much emotional catharsis in viewing this one, as opposed to the San Junipero episode (as a comparison). I think the reason for this is the ambiguity of the episode's nature, and in fact the ambiguity is both the weakness and yet the strength of the episode; I found myself during much of it wondering where things were going and trying to identify what was at play here. (For example, is one of the character closeted trans? The episode answers "not really.") The episode actually ends in a kind of limbo, without defining anything or anyone, feeling both liberating and bleak -- kind of like a "Swingers" story in the dark electronic age. The characters have all settled into a suitable arrangement that is satisfying on some level with them, yet not completely, as part of negotiating an end to the various conflicts of responsibility. So the technology is not really being criticized here, it's more of a "technology opened the door to a particular kind of exploration more easily, and helps provide a solution... but humans must decide whether it's the right solution or resolving the right problem" story.

The story in a nutshell:

Danny and Theo are dating, and apparently they like roleplaying a bit to keep their relationship spiced up. Karl and Danny are good friends who also enjoy an intense relationship, expressed through fighting games. Eleven years later, after attempts at domestication, Karl invites Danny to play the same game ported to VR; but their favorite characters are male and female and they end up using the VR environment to make out abruptly instead of fighting. (And seriously, I can't imagine it's just them, if you can subvert the game intention; there's gotta be a lot of horny teenagers doing the same thing. Sex attracts, sex sells, it is one of the first things that grabs a new tech for its own use.)

Since Danny and Theo have been married w/ kids and trying to conceive again, while Karl is still single, Danny is very conflicted. Karl sees it as an intense experience like porn but hurting no one; but Danny is feeling like it's an affair, and Theo is responding like a spouse who recognizes they are being cheated on somehow even if she can't pinpoint what's going on. Danny is keeping secrets and not functioning well as a marriage partner due to his distraction of the "affair". Things are complicated when Karl accidentally tells Danny he loves him during one of their trysts. Danny is struggling more at the thought of "being gay," whereas Karl is more able to just accept it as an experience and not need to label it, although he does start to respond to it and at one point tells Danny he "loves him," then immediately retracts it. Danny tries to break things off but it doesn't take. Finally Danny demands he and Karl try to hook up IRL to see if "There is anything there" so that THEY can clarify their own inclinations and then move forward; as two men IRL they don't seem to feel anything towards each other, problem resolved. But they get in a fight, the cops show up, and Danny has to spill the beans to Theo.

The episode jumps forward to another future, where once a year Theo will go out trolling for guys (because we see her tempted to do this earlier in the episode -- it was something she tried to refrain from), while Danny and Karl will hook up in the game, and this controlled arrangement stabilizes their marriage. Karl is shown to be alone, rather than dating, and we wonder what kind of life he has outside of the videogame annual hookup. But basically, everyone gets their kinks into a controlled pattern so as to stabilize life rather than threatening to dissolve their relationships.

I think one interesting thing is that characters and viewers will try to find a quick label for Danny and Karl's interactions but the episode doesn't offer any. It really seems they are both "straight men" and Karl's fixation is more about the intensity of the experience of sex as a female character. Basically, the two men trust each other because they had a deep friendship previously, and within that trust they share this intimate experience but more for the experience itself, because it fulfills some need for intensity and spontaneity they are not getting IRL. Theo is also straight but isn't completely satisfied by her domesticated life even if both her and Danny have no desire to split up -- they are both just looking for some outlets for things they feel they can't bring to their marriage relationship, and allowing a vent for those things would permit them to continue to provide a stable household for their family.

So my mind keeps reacting to this. Is this doable? Is it best for all people involved? Will it create further complications down the road? Is it enough? Is Karl actually happy or has he centered his life around an occasional event that robs him of building something more enduring? Is technology to blame? (No, not really, the situation occurred long before VR games came along -- but it allows for easier exploration of such feelings and provides a possible solution unavailable before, whereas maybe in the past people would have had to dig in or drop a relationship -- pick one or the other.)

Other thoughts:

1. Is the intensity of fighting games related to sex drive in any way, which can also be intense? Games typically do have some "hot" female characters who also kick ass against other male characters. But you can see it in even het couples who fight, then that intense heat of conflict boils over into heated sex. I think Booker has even commented on underlying homoerotic undertones of fighting games, he recalls from playing Tekken back in the early 90's, and it comes out here -- the first incident in the episode occurs after an intense period of sparring.

2. Trans people might be more confused by the episode, since some of the earliest trans experiences in the recent growth of tech involve creating avatars/personas of the opposite gender online and experiencing life that way, even if they have made no changes IRL. It's a very common experience, that exists because the outlet itself was the most convenient and the "best you could get" without unraveling your own life externally. It is also a test drive of sorts, as if you hate living as an other-gendered persona, then you now have an answer for yourself. I have no doubt in this world of the story that lots of trans people or possible trans people are using this OTC tech to explore life on the other side. Can you imagine a version of this VR being used for more of a multi-dimensional Sims game? There would be something comforting in living a virtual life exploring who you are without repercussion to the external world, and in fact we already see that through the online realms today.

 

[Totenkindly]

Episode 5.02 "Smithereens"

This will probably be considered the "best" of Season 5, although all in all the season feels a bit more subdued than prior seasons. Also, the season was cut in half due to the Bandersnatch effort from the winter... which seems to have been an interesting venture from a technical perspective if not necessarily a story-telling one.

This stars Andrew Scott, who most American viewers will probably easiest recognize as Moriarity from "Sherlock," and he does a beautiful job emotionally in this episode, he does all the major lifting even if the rest of the cast is pretty solid. It's actually not a complex episode, and it's the one item from the season that is less about the future and more about what is Happening Right Now in terms of Twitter and Facebook. The "twist" is not really that surprising once you hear it, it's more about the emotional fallout of it.

Also, it's about what happens when a new technology takes off so that even the creator of it feels out of control of its evolution. The software and the marketing becomes a living breathing thing in its own right and everyone is just trying to hang out (aside from those exploiting it for their own ends). It's a huge deal nowadays in terms of Facebook and Twitter, which got established before questions regarding free speech vs hate speech ever got resolved... or how to recognize "false information / fake news" ever was even considered on a social media platform.

There's true sadness and isolation here, as well as some pretty dark humor. It's almost a comedy of errors watching social media out-navigate the police resources, attempts to out-navigate the criminal end up backfiring badly, etc.

I actually like the ambiguity of the ending, where all that emotional poignancy (the initial tragedy, followed by police engaging on what was actually an attempt to save a life, meshed with the "villain" doing something good for another person he felt badly for on another media platform) ends up being reduced to just another notification on people's phones as they go through their days.

Episode 5.03 "Rachel, Jack, and Ashley Too"

Likewise, this episode will be considered the "worst" of the season and perhaps in the bottom three of Black Mirror episodes altogether. It's not horrendous as there are moments that work, but overall it's an example of really bad pacing / lack of focus on core mission, some of the writing is honestly embarrassing logically and substance-wise, and it never really grapples with the hard questions of the technological advancement introduced.

While the episode seems to be about the ability to duplicate someone's brain (the singer Ashley O, into the marketed Ashley Too mech dolls), this was already established in prior episodes as early as Season 1 and especially by "White Christmas." What the episode actually ends up being about is electronically swiping ideas from an artist's brain so that a corporate entity can package and market, then use body suits to market performance in multiple venues at once. IOW, celebrity now can be separated from the performer/artist so they become almost expendable and unnecessary for marketable product, which leaves them... where?

The problem is actually NOT Miley Cyrus. She's actually one of the strengths of the episode, she carries much of the severity on her own back and is just fine. It's really the scripting that is the culprit, leaving it unclear what the focus of the episode is about, then creating a mustache-twirling villain late in the game, peppered through with a bunch of inane shenanigans and irrationalities finally ending up on what amounts to an uncharacteristic and unsatisfying resolution that does not really grapple with the complexity of the technology being explored. It's also a case of too many ideas in one episode that just are not well-explored or integrated properly. Could they have focused on what happens when tech is focused on creating something that feels lifelike, that a loner identifies as a close friend, but is really not a person? Or just how musicians/artists can be exploited by technology for the benefit of corporations/managers? Or how it takes little actual talent to throw shit on a stage or on an album -- maybe it's polished but it's not necessarily good. And so forth. The whole "mouse" bit really serves no purpose except to set up a way to remove Ashley Too's limiter (aside from being a blatant allusion to how Ashley O is just a mouse in a cage, a rat in a maze...)

Like, just because Ashley is saved, that doesn't mean the tech would be abandoned. Can Ashley O ever really escape it? Why isn't it being used in the credit montage? What happens to the material stolen from her brain -- who owns it? Did the corporation try to market it? What about all the Ashley Too robots on the market? Most have been mulched, but it's kind of uncomfortable to think of them all being out there but locked down.... and what of the Ashley Too who had been liberated? Basically the technology in question was introduced but the ramifications were not explored, it's almost like 70's Disney era ("Herbie the Love Bug, Escape from Witch Mountain") got a hold of this episode and ran it, in terms of its simplicity, lack of nuance, and lack of grappling with any real questions.

AT least Miley gets to rock out at the end.

 

[Totenkindly]

Black Mirror Season 6 dropped today.

These don't necessarily feel like "on brand" Black Mirror episodes dealing purely with complications of technology, but potentially it's enjoyable regardless.

I couldn't tell what the order was and started watching episode Demon '79 (S6E5, apparently) first. I'm about 60% done and it's been extremely enjoyable, despite it feeling like a different kind of story. I hope the rest are as well done. At least Charlie Brooker is enjoying himself.

EDIT: Finished it. Wished I would have watched it last, it would have made a nice season closer. Really liked the tone -- it's kind of edgy but cheeky all at the same time. And frankly, I can't help but compare it to "Knock at the Cabin" and it makes Shyamalan look like a complete hack. Like, this is that kind of story but told by a skilled storyteller versus MNS's ongoing slop.

Despite the horrible ending for the world, it actually feels kind of hopeful -- a twist on "Looking for a Friend at the End of the World." Maybe she's a poor ostracized Indian woman from a culture that looks down on her and he's just a failed demon, both damned for eternity, but at least they will always have each other. It feels like in their shithole of a situation, things are actually looking up for both of them. I also have to say the acting on their parts is tremendous. Anjana Vasan has such nuance in her line delivery and facial expressions, I'd be happy to watch her in other roles. Paapa Essiedu is hilarious as Gaap the demon who is trying to prove himself to his superiors while trying to be reasonable with Nida on who she needs to kill.

The whole season is five episodes long, so four more to go!

Joan is Awful (S6E1): Kind of a fun meta idea for the first 20 minutes, flabbergasting at times and with a hilarious amount of recursion (make sure you watch the TV within the TV). I found the middle of the episode a bit weak and the legal reasoning presumptive (I think in most cases they rely on "reasonable rights" as a sign off because there is no way anyone ever reads the entire license that is a hundred/hundreds of pages), which threw me out of the story a bit -- but then it picks up and has a really nice last 15 minutes with a shocker or two. Some of the casting is sweet.

The Quantum Computer was just a throwaway story device in this episode. Watch DEVS if you're really fascinated by such things. The real joy in this episode is seeing who is cast as who unexpected, realizing there's a recursive loop set into motion... and then the real twist about where you are in those loops. I really like that the originator is really just a plain jane average woman with an average life.

Loch Henry (S6E2): Basically a scathing commentary of viewer fascination with lurid content, at least until it becomes personal, and then you have to be asking yourself whether it was all truly worth it. (And now we have the weird angle of Netflix satirizing itself in two episodes as a self-designated badge of courage while cynically using that publicity to earn more rating share. Bravo, Netflix, bravo! It has to be fucking seen to be believed.)

Hell of a shocker to realize how closer to home a terrible crime is to you, than you were aware of. I think the story might have been stronger if the lead was actually into the switch in documentary, but he seems to have been pushed into it by his girlfriend. In terms of movie logic, he was kind of an innocent all the way around which is why his life is seemingly spared, but it takes away from his culpability in the emotional prison he is left in by the end of the episode -- did he deserve to lose everything and be left with this outcome, where not even his documentary was his? He's just left shattered by events. however, his does make him a good proxy for the audience; we're forced to identify with what is arguably an innocent victim of the crime documentary wave.

Aside from that bit, I'm actually happy with all three episodes so far by Brooker. I'm surprised at some of the scathing ratings and all I can think of is that it's because the season could feel "off-brand" in some ways -- both Loch Henry and Demon 79 feel like episodes that might have been more part of the V/H/S series (tone and content), aside from just being so much higher quality in terms of the writing and production. Because they are just all well-writing, produced, and acted -- often by cast members that aren't widely known.

 

[Totenkindly]

Watched the final two episodes of Black Mirror Season 6.

Beyond the Sea (S6E3): Well-done slow burn episode, but it's difficult to determine where it was heading. I guess it is an episode full of themes but it feels like Brooker wasn't sure of what the ending should have been. More cohesion needed thematically. But maybe the point was for a lot of threads to linger. Also, considering where this COULD have gone:

If David truly just wanted Lana for himself, he could have ditched Cliff in outer space and pretended to be Cliff on his jaunts back to earth. However, there's the point where maybe both of them were required to run the ship, so they're at a stalemate (although this is kind of bad, what if one of them were to die accidentally, as it would automatically damn the other)? At that stage, all David has left is to ruin what he doesn't have, so that Cliff doesn't have it either and thus both of them have each other and understand each other. Sick, but there it is. Did the murderous Manson gang wannabes have a point? David might have been admirable up front, but under the surface he was entitled and rather sick. Cliff also had some unsavory elements to his character. The real victims seemed to be their wives and kids.

Mazey Day (S6E4): Compared to Beyond the Sea, MD pretty much is the simplest of all the episodes of Season 6 -- except you don't know where it's going exactly until the "oh shit" moment, whereupon I just started laughing and couldn't stop. This isn't a bad thing, it was a hell of an ending. And I guess the main point is already what everyone thought regardless about the paparazzi (with elements of "Nightcrawler" in there), although when you think about it, it becomes even more and more miserable of a snapshot of life in general. I'm not really sure of the reasons for the hate of this episode, it was actually really enjoyable despite the bizarre twist.

The episode takes a few digs at the acting profession, but also saves a lot of scorn for the paparazzi themselves. There are different levels of scum here. We're forced to identify with Bo, who left the business previously to get real work after her prior target commits suicide -- but the payoff for Mazey is so big that she ends up back in business with her particular skillset. (And this is a real person dilemma -- if you were working a low-paying job with no future, and were offered tens of thousands of dollars for a shot of an "actor" who is in hiding and no one can find, and you think you know how to find them, how many people wouldn't buckle under that?) it gets more complicated when the four paparazzi break into a rehab center -- at that point it should definitely feel like you're fucking with someone's privacy and well-being -- but then Bo again show that she's in the middle because when she sees another woman chained up, she immediately wants to free her. This ends up unfortunately being the wrong answer. The show kills off the two "sleaziest" paparazzi first, and then her buddy who instead of saving the one guy took his camera instead; but the moment here for Bo is when everyone is dead but her, and Mazey is begging for death, and you think it's kind of a mercy that she's giving Mazey the gun because she just doesn't want to do it herself and will let Mazey have ownership of the deed -- and then you realize it's so she can take her picture. Corruption is corruption despite the muddled intentions.

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So there you have it, my thoughts on Season 6.

I have been surprised at the dislike some reviewers expressed for episodes this season. All of them had wonderful production values, good acting, and the writing was actually pretty coherent versus clumsy like can happen on many anthology shows; Brooker tends to be a solid writer in terms of the delivery of the story, and what is actually quibbled on is the story being told.

I suspect the main problem is that the season is fairly "off-brand" for Black Mirror, which had a pretty tight focus on the horrors inflicted on our culture by modern technology. Brooker did not stay in that lane for much of Season 6, I would call this season a pretty clear veer into regular Twilight Zone / American Horror Story / VHS territory. The time periods also vary widely, with episodes clearly anchored in decades like the 60's, 70's, and 90's, along with modern times. So it's off-brand, but that doesn't mean the stories weren't worth viewing or that they were "bad." I think the only dissatisfaction I experienced (again) was with Beyond the Sea, which kind of just trails off (although I really enjoy the chair kick).

The thing is, the later seasons of Black Mirror had more hits and misses. If this is what Brooker needed to revitalize himself and get the juices flowing again, and this venue worked for him, then who cares? They're still speculative fiction stories and they are really well-done overall. I'm actually a lot happier with this season than I've been since White Christmas dropped, tbh. As a season, I also enjoyed it more than Peele's TZ reboot seasons or other speculative fiction seasons I've perused on streaming like Tales from the Loop, for example.

 

[Totenkindly]