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    So strange, the last few weeks I'd been thinking about certain famous names and how I would feel if they died. Robin Williams was one of them.

    But that's coincidence more than anything. In any case....this.....is upsetting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    And hell, I guess I can understand if you are suffering in total MENTAL agony year after year (did he have Bi-Polar?).
    "Psychologist Julie Cerel, chairperson of the board of the American Association of Suicidology, said Williams was known to have bipolar disorder, depression and problems with drug abuse."

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    This is probably one of the most WTF things I've seen in my lifetime...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    "Psychologist Julie Cerel, chairperson of the board of the American Association of Suicidology, said Williams was known to have bipolar disorder, depression and problems with drug abuse."

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    I'm very sad. I always felt like I could relate to him, like he could be my friend. Someone that had a similar view of the world as me. So him dying is like seeing how a part of me could give up. I don't know, it's weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Hysteria View Post
    It's such a coincidence that everyone was just discussing his type a few days ago...
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    I've seen some people on the Internet saying that he owed his fans a letter to explain his death... which I'm still kind of floored by.

    It does raise the question of who "owns" a celebrity. He happens to have been in a line of work where people think they feel emotionally connected to you despite having never met you; but realistically he was doing a job that he was well paid for (because he was appealing and talented), and just like any other well-paid professional, he had a private/personal life and in that life he was whoever he was... not the celebrity, just a man as human as anyone else.

    I wouldn't expect my plumber or doctor to involve me in their personal affairs or explain in detail whatever emotional distress they might be suffering outside of the job... why are celebrities different? It's like society tries to "own" them to some degree. That must be stressful in itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Conduit View Post
    63 is not that old by modern standards. Had he died at 85 of natural causes, I wouldn't be shocked.
    Yeah, that's the shocker. Male life expectancy in the US for men is around 78 years right now, and that's not quite accurate because it's always based on people who are already dead, not the people who are currently alive and might live a lot longer in the light of improving medicine/treatment.

    So he had another 15 years +/- a few, according to the statistics, if he remained healthy.

    Plus, it seems very probable that if he hadn't been suffering depression or another issue, he would have wanted to live. It's not like he decided, "Oh, I'm 63, I've lived a long and profitable life and now I've decided to draw it to a close, it was wonderful," it's likely, "I'm tired of feeling so horrible all the time and just don't have the strength to keep going." At least, that's how depression works.

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    Same here. My personal favorites are The Fisher King, Dead Poet's, and Awakenings.
    Fisher King, Dead Poet's, and Good Will Hunting for me.
    Well, and Aladdin.

    It was also kind of touching to see him show up in A.I.
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    Just remember Patch Adams and this will be much happier news.

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    He did apparently play Eisenhower in "The Butler," but I had been wondering if the failure of "The Crazy Ones" and having "Night in the Museum" be his current claim to fame had had any impact on his self-perception.

    However, what you're saying about control and power doesn't really seem to jibe with the Williams that people seem to be describing. He seemed more down to earth and genuinely kind than finding value in his dominance. I can't speak about whether he felt his creativity was on a decline, although his branching into drama from comedy would have been one way to inure himself against that. It's not like he wasn't successful in multiple venues, and comedy was just the "high octane" one. He had more to live for than just that, so it sounds like there are other factors involved.
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