• You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community, you will have access to additional post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), view blogs, respond to polls, upload content, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so please join our community today! Just click here to register. You should turn your Ad Blocker off for this site or certain features may not work properly. If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us by clicking here.

Chess -Does it make you insane?

raindancing

actinomycetes
Joined
Feb 28, 2008
Messages
346
MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
Just a bit of random curiousness here...

I have this issue with playing chess, it makes me feel like I'm going insane. Trying to decide the next move, my brain starts looking at all the endless permutations, if I move this pawn here, then black moves here, then.... or move the bishop, then.... or or or or spiraling further and further out of control. THERE IS NO END. And it really feels like I'm touching insanity... my brain starts going faster faster faster faster, trying to grab all the possibilities, encompass them all, grasping frantically.
I feel totally incapable of making a decision. Anything I do will be based on incomplete data. I imagine myself slavering at the mouth like a dog with rabies. Must. know. all.
I think chess is bad for me.

Anyone else have this issue? What function(s) would this be? :shock:
 

The Great One

New member
Joined
Apr 27, 2012
Messages
3,439
MBTI Type
ENTP
Enneagram
6w7
Chess just bores me to tears because it's the same damn game over and over. I prefer strategy games like, "Command and Conquer" more.
 

RaptorWizard

Permabanned
Joined
Mar 19, 2012
Messages
5,895
MBTI Type
INTJ
Enneagram
5w6
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
106990-bigthumbnail.jpg
 

UniqueMixture

New member
Joined
Mar 5, 2012
Messages
3,004
MBTI Type
estj
Enneagram
378
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
I like chess. I find it relaxing. Look up a chess program that shows you the permutations 5 moves out. It will help you visualize the possibilities better. Personally, I find Go much more fascinating (more permutations).
 

Forever_Jung

Active member
Joined
May 23, 2009
Messages
2,644
MBTI Type
ESFJ
People assume I am good at chess due to my squinty eyes and lack of social graces, but I actually have no interest in it. It stresses me out, having to think that way. I wish it would go away.
 

Mad Hatter

Head Pigeon
Joined
Nov 3, 2009
Messages
1,087
MBTI Type
INTP
Enneagram
-1w
Instinctual Variant
sp/sx
Chess just bores me to tears because it's the same damn game over and over. I prefer strategy games like, "Command and Conquer" more.

Now there's a man after my own taste :wink: Even though I probably played the whole series to death.

Just a bit of random curiousness here...

I have this issue with playing chess, it makes me feel like I'm going insane. Trying to decide the next move, my brain starts looking at all the endless permutations, if I move this pawn here, then black moves here, then.... or move the bishop, then.... or or or or spiraling further and further out of control. THERE IS NO END. And it really feels like I'm touching insanity... my brain starts going faster faster faster faster, trying to grab all the possibilities, encompass them all, grasping frantically.
I feel totally incapable of making a decision. Anything I do will be based on incomplete data. I imagine myself slavering at the mouth like a dog with rabies. Must. know. all.
I think chess is bad for me.

Anyone else have this issue? What function(s) would this be? :shock:

Hell yes :laugh:

Well, I (possibly fondly) remember a series of games I played with my ENTJ friend back then. We would play for hours and hours on end, taking minutes sometimes to consider the next move, because each one was too afraid to make a bad move, so we'd exchance pieces one by one without any gain for either party. - Quite exhausting, I can tell you. So far, the balance has been quite even though.
Eventually, one of us would either make a careless mistake that would be exploited by the other, or neither of us would have enoug pieces left for a checkmate, and the we'd end up with a draw (quite frequent).

Somehow in my mind, chess is less of a game than more of an intelligence test, and I don't want to run the risk of being bad at it. Being bad at chess makes me feel dumb, so I often just avoid the risk by not playing.
 

The Great One

New member
Joined
Apr 27, 2012
Messages
3,439
MBTI Type
ENTP
Enneagram
6w7
[MENTION=8444]Mad Hatter[/MENTION]

Yes, that, Fable, and KOTOR. I love those games to death.
 

raindancing

actinomycetes
Joined
Feb 28, 2008
Messages
346
MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
N


Somehow in my mind, chess is less of a game than more of an intelligence test, and I don't want to run the risk of being bad at it, so often I decide to just not play (even though I enjoy it).

I think that is at least part of my problem... which, sadistically, makes me want to play more. (I hate finding that mentality in myself --I am who I am who I am who I am. Intellectual honesty above all. If I'm not as intelligent as I imagine, than I'm not. Laboring under illusion doesn't change reality. Unless you live in Discworld, of course.)
 

highlander

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 23, 2009
Messages
26,578
MBTI Type
INTJ
Enneagram
6w5
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
Just a bit of random curiousness here...

I have this issue with playing chess, it makes me feel like I'm going insane. Trying to decide the next move, my brain starts looking at all the endless permutations, if I move this pawn here, then black moves here, then.... or move the bishop, then.... or or or or spiraling further and further out of control. THERE IS NO END. And it really feels like I'm touching insanity... my brain starts going faster faster faster faster, trying to grab all the possibilities, encompass them all, grasping frantically.
I feel totally incapable of making a decision. Anything I do will be based on incomplete data. I imagine myself slavering at the mouth like a dog with rabies. Must. know. all.
I think chess is bad for me.

Anyone else have this issue? What function(s) would this be? :shock:

I used to be pretty good at it in middle school and high school. I still have the trophies and medals. The funniest thing I ever got for winning a tournament was a football.

To get really good at it, you have to read books, memorize openings, study end-games and stuff like that. There is a lot to know and the best players think ahead probably six moves. I tried but just didn't have the motivation and was more interested in girls. So when I went to college, I quit playing. I haven't played for years.

It is pretty challenging intellectually and there is a lot of strategy as well as tactics involved.
 

raindancing

actinomycetes
Joined
Feb 28, 2008
Messages
346
MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
I used to be pretty good at it in middle school and high school. I still have the trophies and medals. The funniest thing I ever got for winning a tournament was a football.

To get really good at it, you have to read books, memorize openings, study end-games and stuff like that. There is a lot to know and the best players think ahead probably six moves. I tried but just didn't have the motivation and was more interested in girls. So when I went to college, I quit playing. I haven't played for years.

It is pretty challenging intellectually and there is a lot of strategy as well as tactics involved.

Yea I know study is needed to be good. My husband was pretty into it at a certain time, that's why I started playing. It's not something I have much desire to do, many other things are higher on my list of priorities. I just find it interesting how it makes my brain go haywire. :)
There are other things that have similar effect, but chess seems to cause the most craziness.

I guess in some ways I could see myself studying it just so I could play casually without it being such a damnable stressful experience. :laugh:
 

highlander

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 23, 2009
Messages
26,578
MBTI Type
INTJ
Enneagram
6w5
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
Yea I know study is needed to be good. My husband was pretty into it at a certain time, that's why I started playing. It's not something I have much desire to do, many other things are higher on my list of priorities. I just find it interesting how it makes my brain go haywire. :)
There are other things that have similar effect, but chess seems to cause the most craziness.

I guess in some ways I could see myself studying it just so I could play casually without it being such a damnable stressful experience. :laugh:

What are the other things that give you the similar effect?
 

xisnotx

Permabanned
Joined
Sep 24, 2010
Messages
2,144
Play some poker...
it's all that plus the fact that your decision actually can lose you money.
i've had moments where i just stare blankly into the abyss of all the information that's coming at me and just blank.

then you go on blind instinct and lose all your money...

on second thought, don't play some poker. it isn't good for you.
 

raindancing

actinomycetes
Joined
Feb 28, 2008
Messages
346
MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
What are the other things that give you the similar effect?

Damn it! I knew someone would have to ask that.

My brain is being uncooperative and refusing to pull up any examples. This always happens. Like going to the doctor...

Um um... Ok just thought of something. Recently built a house (I mean had someone else build it...) and when I was designing the thing, well it was this total blank canvas. I could do anything. Oh god it was crazy (but in a good way, not like chess). So many possibilities! Endless variations down to the tiniest detail, then one little change and the whole balance fluctuates with cascading repercussions... I'm doing some landscape design, from a total blank slate, turning a 2 acre paddock into a garden. Kind of similar. So design things can have a similar feeling, maybe? But it's still not the same as chess. Not so overwhelming. Actually I don't even know if it's the same at all. So those examples kind of suck.

Hmm.. I know there are other things that have been more similar to that feeling I get from chess, I just can't think of them right now. Other strategy games, I think. Which is probably why I avoid them. MATH. Yes Math does it. *shudder* Part of me finds it fascinating and the other part feels like spiders are trying to eat my brain.
But in a way it's different with math, not all the spiraling possibilities that get out of control. Something about the thought process feels similar though. :shrug:

Apologies for the terrible answer :D
 

raindancing

actinomycetes
Joined
Feb 28, 2008
Messages
346
MBTI Type
INFP
Enneagram
4w5
Instinctual Variant
sx/sp
i've had moments where i just stare blankly into the abyss of all the information that's coming at me and just blank.

!!!! Yes. What a perfect sentence. Such a weird feeling when someone expresses something from my mind so perfectly. I love it. :D
 

Orangey

Blah
Joined
Jun 26, 2008
Messages
6,354
MBTI Type
ESTP
Enneagram
6w5
Just take some adderall and then play. You'll be much quicker on your feet.

I'm usually good with or without drugs, but I've been known to get impatient and just wing it during games. That usually costs me big time, as you can imagine.
 
Top