No, actually I think one of the guys was called King Mo.
Not a big fan of his...
Runs his mouth too much...
He's not really one of the huge guys, either...
He fights in the 205 lbs (light heavyweight division)...
This is one of the guys (Alistair Overeem) at the weigh-ins from that other fight I mentioned...
Spectator sports are pointless...
Obviously that's not an objective fact, but you stated it as such, so I'm going to make an accurate one by saying that you're wrong.
Spectator sports are awesome, imo. I don't expect everybody to like them, but I'd be interested in why you don't.
Perhaps the social last has something to do with it?
no one in their right mind would bet against him.
I picked Chael Sonnen against him in the first fight.
Would've been pretty happy with my 4:1 underdog odds heading into that 5th round.
(don't know what woulda happened in light of his test failure, tho, if he
had won.)
@ Zarathustra
Not necessarily. The fights aren't totally unpredictable. There's a smart way to gamble.
I didn't even know this guy (Erick Silva, the guy on the right), but this picture made me bet on him:
The battle is won before it's fought.
Passionate sex is imminent. Looks like a porn thumbnail.
A violent pounding did occur, but not the type you're thinking of.
I watch it if I'm with friends, who ppv a lot of it. I used to like it more. Many fights inevitably go to the ground. Admittedly I suck at that, but I never thought it was fun anyways, and especially not fun to watch.
You just need to see some good ground game (even if it's not your style, you would appreciate it).
Some recent examples:
Frank Mir vs Minotauro Nogueira 2 (last time, Mir knocked Nogueira, a legend of the sport, out; this time...):
Alan Belcher vs Rousimar Palhares (Palhares, the Brazilian, has a bad reputation for not letting go of his leglocks, and essentially ripping apart the knees of his opponents, even when they are tapping [in other words, he's a fucking asshole]):
http://fightnext.com/video/5M7Y545OXA52/Rousimar-Palhares-vs-Alan-Belcher--UFC-on-FOX-3
I can appreciate it, but it doesn't play to my strengths. I like to move on my feet, and hopefully strike to end things quickly. I don't even consider myself strong. I have long limbs, which helps with striking power. Actual brute strength like I'd need to wrestle or fight on the ground isn't there. I never formally fought like that, but the times it happened with normal people, I almost want to immediately give up. lol.
I'm the exact opposite.
Any fight I've been in, I've immediately closed the distance, done a standing guillotine, or taken the guy down, and guillotined or rear-naked choked him.
Striking is beautiful/awesome, when well-executed, but I know my strengths, and have no desire to take unnecessary shots to the head.
Having worked on my stand up game, wrestling, and ground game, I wouldn't say any one of them "takes the most skill".
They just take different skills.
+1
...I would say it's equally difficult to reach a certain equivalent level of mastery in either.
+1
It is meant for gamblers, I suppose?
Fans, gamblers, shit-talkers.
Tbh, I just figured I'd start a thread so I wouldn't always be harassing Rasofy about it on his wall.
True or false: I have heard that MMA fighters do not take blows to the face as well as traditional boxers (traditional, meaning, the kind that only use their hands with big gloves)?
False.
This sounds like uninformed nonsense from an anti-MMA, pro-boxing fan.
It's not what sport you participate in that determines your chin, it's your individual characteristics.
There are plenty of MMA fighters who have granite chins, just as strong as, if not stronger than, most boxers.
This always bothered me a little because it seems like you could just put a pro boxer in there and they'd knock the hell out of people before they even got the chance to do those other things.
I remember wondering the same thing when I was 10 years old and first heard about the UFC...
Then I watched UFC 1, and watched the boxer get taken down and quickly submitted, and realized it was all just a myth.
lol....I think this was the last time a pro boxer tried to fight an MMA fighter who was lighter than him. The results speak for itself. [video]http://www.boobootv.com/2010/08/30/randy-couture-vs-james-toney-full-fight/[/video]
If you watch the video, you'll actually hear Joe Rogan (a highly skilled martial artist himself) say, "And, just like we learned in UFC 1..."
The truth is, western-style boxing can be a very effective style, but one must also know how to defend the takedown; if they can't, then they're almost guaranteed to get their ass kicked. Chuck Lidell, that dude with the goofy mohawk, was famous for this, as is current Heavyweight Champion, Junior Dos Santos. Wrestlers couldn't/can't take them down, nor could they strike with them on their feet. But they've got to be able to stuff the takedown (and/or have good grappling if the fight does go to the ground).
Ray Mercer knocked out Tim Sylvia though (but also lost against Kimbo before that). I think it's just going to boil down to individuals and pre-fight training. Plus, I don't think a lot of the badass boxers see the money in it yet. Ray Mercer was over the hill by the time he went in mma.
Tim Sylvia had been booted out of the UFC by that point, and was a fat, out-of-shape slob. Don't get me wrong, Ray Mercer is a beast standing up, but the same thing that happened to James Toney would happen to him if he stepped into the UFC.
