Random Star Wars Thoughts

[Totenkindly]

 

[Totenkindly]

Not sure why people were gushing over the trailer. We barely see Ben Kenobi. Is it the music that made people happy, or just that there are two sith looking for him? It wasn't like the scenes were that impressive.

I'm also sick of being on Tatooine. Geez, just go somewhere else for once, won't you?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Not sure why people were gushing over the trailer. We barely see Ben Kenobi. Is it the music that made people happy, or just that there are two sith looking for him? It wasn't like the scenes were that impressive.

I'm also sick of being on Tatooine. Geez, just go somewhere else for once, won't you?

I was more jazzed by it than the Book of Boba Fett trailer, ( which proved to be underwhelming).

It would be great to have a show about Boba Fett, not sure what that was, though. It was better than Rise of Skywalker, though.

 

[Totenkindly]

I was more jazzed by it than the Book of Boba Fett trailer, ( which proved to be underwhelming).

It would be great to have a show about Boba Fett, not sure what that was, though. It was better than Rise of Skywalker, though.

Yeah, I haven't finished it, but Episode 1 had been pretty underwhelming and nothing really about the character the way I wanted to see it. The action was a joke.

It seems very rare I see anything in the theater or on Disney+ that I like about Star Wars nowadays. It is usually the game properties or maybe some older shows released elsewhere that have been worth seeing.

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Yeah, I haven't finished it, but Episode 1 had been pretty underwhelming and nothing really about the character the way I wanted to see it. The action was a joke.

It seems very rare I see anything in the theater or on Disney+ that I like about Star Wars nowadays. It is usually the game properties or maybe some older shows released elsewhere that have been worth seeing.

He was just an unambiguous good guy. Two episodes were basically about the Mandalorian and he showed more ruthlessness in them than we saw in Boba.

I kind of had a feeling they were going to do that from the trailer.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

New sitcom set in Dex’s Diner

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

New sitcom set in Dex’s Diner

Well whadda you know?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

I know this character is racist as hell* (much worse than Jar Jar or Watto IMO) but this made my laugh out loud. Just because the character is so stupid.

* It's basically what if Ming the Merciless was a 90s Japanese businessman caricature (anxiety about Japanese companies buying up everything in the US and decimating American firms was a very big thing in the 90s) and by far the most racist thing about those movies even though you heard about that the least. I actually don't think George Lucas is racist beyond just being a boomer who grew up loving to watch shorts rife with Yellow Peril and not the most accurate/sensitive portrayals of other races, but oof this does not come out well. I kind of feel like it was a case like "ooh, all this stuff was in the kind of entertainment I loved as a kid, why shouldn't I try and adapt/update this?" and didn't really think about how it would come across in a modern context.

This is present in the OT to some extent with the Tusken Raiders, who are obviously a riff on the "savage Indians" of Westerns. It's interesting that the more recent shows have tried to "humanize" them somewhat and show other aspects of their culture. I think if A New Hope had come out today there might be some criticism of it; but I think people probably weren't inclined to be aware of/think of such things in the 70s (at least among white people).

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

general kenobiiiii

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

Is the SW galaxy even located in the same universe as ours? I think that the presence of physics-defying "magic" force powers suggests they are within a universe with different laws of physics and nature. Not only are they probably not located within the limits of our observable universe, but I would guess they exist in an altogether separate universe within the greater multiverse.

Another thought, perhaps the force is really an emanation of or expression of vast energy existing on a different dimensional plane. Perhaps force sensitives have some adaptation which allows them to harness and channel this energy. Or maybe the force is an expression of dark energy as it is harnessed and directed by those able to use it. This could explain how their "powers" seem to defy the very laws of gravity and physics. Furthermore, what if the midichlorians are in fact beings who exist partially on a plane where they are immersed in dark matter or dark energy?

 

[Julius_Van_Der_Beak]

Is the SW galaxy even located in the same universe as ours? I think that the presence of physics-defying "magic" force powers suggests they are within a universe with different laws of physics and nature. Not only are they probably not located within the limits of our observable universe, but I would guess they exist in an altogether separate universe within the greater multiverse.

Another thought, perhaps the force is really an emanation of or expression of vast energy existing on a different dimensional plane. Perhaps force sensitives have some adaptation which allows them to harness and channel this energy. Or maybe the force is an expression of dark energy as it is harnessed and directed by those able to use it. This could explain how their "powers" seem to defy the very laws of gravity and physics. Furthermore, what if the midichlorians are in fact beings who exist partially on a plane where they are immersed in dark matter or dark energy?

Apparently Lucas's sequel trilogy was going to deal with the Midichlorians (or at least the "microbiotic world") in a big way, somehow. I admit I'm intrigued but I'm convinced people would have hated it even more than the current sequel trilogy. I think I would have preferred it to Rise of Skywalker, though, even if his statements are taken literally and we're just watching bacteria swim around through people's blood and maybe a Fantastic Voyage-type scenario. Maybe the Midichlorians have little lightsaber-like cilia and the duel each other by flailing them about at each other. I think looking through microscopes is pretty cool so I'd be ok with that.

 

[Totenkindly]

Watched the first two episodes of Obi-Wan. Surprisingly, I liked them. I wish more of their MCU and SW shows were at least of this quality.

• Good integration of known characters with new ones.
• Character arcs with earlier and later films mesh so far.
• Actually improves A New Hope, it sheds some light on why things probably went how they did with certain characters and/or also contributes to understanding relationships that exist in ANH.
• Despite the bombastic trailers, it's been a a thoughtful series so far and might have actually needed a minute or two more of direct conflict / action sequencing with the leads.
• Decent acting.
• Even knowing which characters are alive in ANH time, I *still* felt worried for them during these episodes.

I dunno. I still fear they will lose their nerve in the second half of the season, but it was a decent start despite all the overhype and ridiculous trailers. My favorite so far in the Disney+ developed series / items and possibly beating almost anything I saw with the MCU too.

 

[Totenkindly]

so I've seen all three Obi-Wan episodes so far and am mildly disappointed. Like, it's not bad (and sadly better than most of the Disney + offerings), but it feels rather toothless.

One big issue is lots of bluster, no follow-through.

A big example is the Inquisitors, who bicker endlessly and usher semi-veiled threats, yet rarely carry through on anything. You'd think a more crafty dark force user would actually pretend to be less of a threat or even supportive, then simply backstab their targets when opportunity occurs. But in general, this show seems to be all about setting up great potential action sequences, and then bailing on them.

Examples:

• Three inquisitors jump young jedi in bar, but he gets away after knocking down an awning because they let him escape.
• Leia runs all over town to escape Obi-Wan since she thinks he's a liar, and he's acting like a doddering old man -- he can't even catch a young girl or keep up with her, when she's running around in little girl style. A turtle could have caught her.
• Reva goes parkour crazy to chase Obiwan around town -- and never catches up with him in the streets. It's like, girl! We just see her parkouring around impressively without her ever reaching her target. Worse, she is doing parkour moves that actually slow her down, they are meant to somehow impress the audience but would never be used in a chase where your whole goal is to actually catch up to someone. Do better, Disney.
• Obi-wan kills 4-5 stormtroopers at close range easily without ever pulling his lightsaber. He then is threatened by three stormtroopers (literally right after), and gives himself up when they can never shoot and hit straight anyway.
• Best example: Darth Vader is killing innocent people in the street to flush out Obi-Wan. This part was bad-ass. Obiwan never tries to help them. He merely runs out of town, maybe to "lure" Vader away? But he's already killing people, why didn't he help them? Somehow Vader gets there ahead of him anyway and pulls a saber. Obi-wan refuses to pull his saber. Then he pulls his saber when Vader is nowhere around. Then he doesn't really use it, and Darth kind of beats him up with Obi-wan phoning it in. He then gets knocked down. he then gets thrown in fire. Then a woman with two shots takes out a trooper and sets the field on fire, which Vader could just walk through if he wanted... but they watch Obi-Wan get dragged to safety by a slow voiceless robot who literally has been walking for 15 minutes to get outside of town and somehow save Obi-Wan. He's not even a fast robot. He's a slow robot, but no one circles around the fire to get him.

Basically it feels like the drama is mostly there, but the action is severely lacking in its direction, scripting, and execution. There's also a lot of impenetrable character motivation esp from Obi-Wan's POV. Is he not using the Force because he's cut himself off from it? Or because his having to slice up Anakin left him scarred and undesiring to be a jedi or use the force? He barely uses his saber and not really. He also seems always reluctant to do anything. Again, this could be justified, but the script is too weak to clearly put us in his head and know whether he is actually powerless, or whether he is choosing to be powerless, or whether he has a plan. I think the subtext COULD be there but the writing just doesn't really tie it together well.

I think the acting is probably the best part, but the cast can only elevate this script so far.

We also got an

alien who sounds like Seth Rogan but might be Zack Braff. We also got Ellaria Sand with a British accent this time; I want her to team up with the Mandalorian's Pedro Pascal.

 

[JocktheMotie]

It seems anything not led or developed by Filoni is destined to be mediocre. I cannot believe modern Disney would take this character and this actor give us this trash. I mean, I can, they gave us Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker.

The show is for kids.

I'm still waiting for a prestige star wars and I no longer have any faith Lucasfilm will deliver it.

The first two episodes were super strong. The first in particular. Each subsequent episode has gone further off the rails and strains credibility.

 

[Totenkindly]

Finally watched episode 4 tonight. This is partly a back-handed compliment; I liked about half the stuff in the episode and found the other half really absurd to the point where I was cracking jokes and heckling the going-on's because it stretched incredulity -- and yet it did so in a way that I enjoyed making fun of, versus just being bad without being amusing. I mean, i'd prefer a show I could respect, for grown-ups, completely through, but I guess at least it brought me some much needed laughs even if that was not its intention.

• Stormtroopers are awful, except on the rare occasion the plot needs them to be effective. Otherwise they just effin' suck to the point of ridiculousness. The scene in the torture chamber (where Kenobi turns out the lights and there's just two of them in there) was embarrassing.
• Reva interrogating Leia. "Oh look, the 3rd ranked inquisitor is matching wits with a ten year old girl and is having trouble winning."
• Kenobi is FINALLY shown to be having trouble with the force; for three episodes it wasn't really clear whether he was just rusty, had shut himself off, or had been declining to use the Force to hide his presence. But then halfway through the episode apparently since he needs to be proficient, he suddenly is again + with his lightsaber too.
• LEIA UNDER THE TRENCHCOAT, walking through the entirety of the base without being noticed -- "nope, nothing weird going on here."
• If you're a resistance fighter in a flying ship with high mobility, firing on a force-sensitive with a lightsaber, WHY WOULD YOU MOVE TO WITHIN TEN FEET TO SIT THERE AND BLAST THEM? It's a wonder he didn't die then and just got taken out in a more lame fashion.
• The hall of dead jedi, along with a youngling. Damn.
• Kenobi can lightsaber multiple enemies but decides to jog away from the robot he could have destroyed, letting it do a base-wide alarm.
• Talon talking to Kenobi on the com in a quiet room with other people and no one really raises an alarm.

I'll stop there.

About the biggest thing I appreciate is just it giving a real feel for why Leia reached out to Kenobi in A New Hope, even though she doesn't seem broken up nearly as much as Luke does when Ben is lost on Vader's starship. (But that is forgivable, I guess, since none of this subtext existed.)

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

This shit was written by whales or manatees or something.

 

[Totenkindly]

This shit was written by whales or manatees or something.

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

So is Kenobi this franchise’s Picard?

the parallels seem obvious.

At least it’s not Caravan of Courage. But it will never live up to the glory of the holiday special

 

[Totenkindly]

Well, thank the freaking midicholorians...! about time they moved on

Taika Waititi Will Expand ‘Star Wars’ Away from Preexisting Characters, Forget Prequel Origin Stories

The galaxy far, far away will no longer look backward to Luke, Leia, Han Solo, and Darth Vader.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Totenkindly]

Omg lol...