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my thoughts on the cell saga

draon9

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Remember when imperfect cell came on the scene and the first z fighter to face him was piccolo. Remember imperfect cell was an exact mirror of how piccolo was especially during the piccolo jr saga, cunning and crafty and will do it by any means necessary to get what he wants. It is like piccolo was facing his past self and he had to overcome himself and he failed due to him being a little cocky and not taking this fight as seriously as he should have.

After cell absorb 17, he was more like vegeta, cocky,vain and stuck on himself. Vegeta failed to kill him when he had the chance because of his own cockiness and him loving a challenge and cell made a joke out of him even if trunks was telling him to use common and trunks should have knock vegeta out and kill cell himself.

Goku fell to kill cell because he was not only strong enough to defeat cell,but it also represents why him stepping down as earth's protector. He put Gohan on the scene to fight cell because he saw that gohan at that time was way stronger than him. Also if you notice something about the frieza saga and the cell saga, when bardock fail to defeat frieza, goku had to step up the plate and when goku fail to defeat cell, gohan had to step up the plate and defeat cell.

Gohan's biggest problem is that he is not confident in his own fighting abilities and it is own mind that he is fighting against. Gohan was obviously meant to be a fighter not a scholar, primarily.
 

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Gohan wasn't ever really fleshed out in the same way that Goku was after Dragonball. He was a always a counterpoint to to Goku's carefree, airheaded, battle-obsessed nature, and given Chi-Chi's fixation on educating Gohan, it's clear that Toriyama wrote him to be human, suppressing his alien side. Gohan follows the peaceful-berserker trope for most of the series: headbutts Raditz as a toddler; goes apeshit on the Saiyans; wails on Frieza between forms; [alternate history with cyborgs]; and then culminates as ascended against Perfect Cell. I've read that Toriyama intended to pass the torch to Gohan as the new Goku, but Gohan always comes across as flaccid and bookish and doesn't revel in fighting for fighting's sake. If Goku is the character of unlimited potential, Gohan is the character of untapped potential; Gohan is relatable, Goku is the model hero, in other words. (Especially with the mystic Super Saiyan plot device in the Buu saga) Gohan's training has always forced him to be a punching bag for sort-of-well-meaning Piccolo and oblivious Goku, so he always comes across as a cornered animal in the major fights.

TFS captures this tone pretty well (at the 11 min marker) mainly in this episode:
 

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Gohan wasn't ever really fleshed out in the same way that Goku was after Dragonball. He was a always a counterpoint to to Goku's carefree, airheaded, battle-obsessed nature, and given Chi-Chi's fixation on educating Gohan, it's clear that Toriyama wrote him to be human, suppressing his alien side. Gohan follows the peaceful-berserker trope for most of the series: headbutts Raditz as a toddler; goes apeshit on the Saiyans; wails on Frieza between forms; [alternate history with cyborgs]; and then culminates as ascended against Perfect Cell. I've read that Toriyama intended to pass the torch to Gohan as the new Goku, but Gohan always comes across as flaccid and bookish and doesn't revel in fighting for fighting's sake. If Goku is the character of unlimited potential, Gohan is the character of untapped potential; Gohan is relatable, Goku is the model hero, in other words. (Especially with the mystic Super Saiyan plot device in the Buu saga) Gohan's training has always forced him to be a punching bag for sort-of-well-meaning Piccolo and oblivious Goku, so he always comes across as a cornered animal in the major fights.

TFS captures this tone pretty well (at the 11 min marker) mainly in this episode:

i watched the abridged series, it is very funny and yet it is very true
 
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