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    i want to be left the fuck alone if i know what i am doing...
    " 'Cause life's a game, life's a joke
    Fuck it, why not go for broke?
    Trade in all your chips and learn how to be free
    Why abstain? Why jump in line?
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    So do what you like
    And we'll like what you do when you do it
    And if they don't that's fine
    Fuck 'em!"

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    In the past, I hired and 'rehabbed' talent who were thought to be too independent by others. The word rehabbed is in quotation marks since it only entailed the appreciation of their independence and allowing them to reach a clearly defined end goal with all the tools necessary to accomplish. Give me one independent over two line staff, since you can rely on the independent's laziness to work smart.

    Vive l'indépendance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bechimo View Post
    In the past, I hired and 'rehabbed' talent who were thought to be too independent by others. The word rehabbed is in quotation marks since it only entailed the appreciation of their independence and allowing them to reach a clearly defined end goal with all the tools necessary to accomplish. Give me one independent over two line staff, since you can rely on the independent's laziness to work smart.

    Vive l'indépendance!
    The OP is asking members whether they prefer micromanagers or delegators for a boss, not if they themselves prefer to micromanage or delegate others. Remember to read what has actually been written before rushing in with an opinion.
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    I prefer micromanaging when it's a task I have no experience in.

    Particularly at my current job (veterinary practice nurse) as the theory you learn at college is little preparation for the actual job itself & you can't exactly chance it with your own judgement because of the severity of the consequences. However after a certain point I desire autonomy so I can get on with the jobs I know.
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    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
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    I don't think that anyone who prefers a micromanager will admit to it under those terms...

    I think lots of people are in denial about being followers, being passive, or liking a lack of control in their work lol. However, I think most people prefer being followers and there's nothing inherently wrong with that being your natural inclination at work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellmold View Post
    I prefer micromanaging when it's a task I have no experience in.

    Particularly at my current job (veterinary practice nurse) as the theory you learn at college is little preparation for the actual job itself & you can't exactly chance it with your own judgement because of the severity of the consequences. However after a certain point I desire autonomy so I can get on with the jobs I know.
    That's exactly what I think of as better management (would not qualify it as good management yet) and in management literature that I've read its usually referred to as a "dynamic" management style as opposed to "proactive" (does the job for you) or "laissez faire" (spelling, does not intervene).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomb1 View Post
    The OP is asking members whether they prefer micromanagers or delegators for a boss, not if they themselves prefer to micromanage or delegate others. Remember to read what has actually been written before rushing in with an opinion.
    It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that my preference is for delegators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtBubbles View Post
    I don't think that anyone who prefers a micromanager will admit to it under those terms...

    I think lots of people are in denial about being followers, being passive, or liking a lack of control in their work lol. However, I think most people prefer being followers and there's nothing inherently wrong with that being your natural inclination at work.
    I just admitted the terms and reasons for which I prefer one style over another. There was no intention to portray those who prefer the other style in a negative manner
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    You're missing the 3rd type of manager: the oblivious, clueless guy who doesn't bother to check on the employees to make sure they're working and doing their tasks correctly. This type is equally as bad as the micromanager because he lets your co-workers get away with wasting time, surfing on the net, talking on the phone, and goofing off.

    The ideal manager is someone who knows his staff and knows what they can handle and delegates when needed and closely watches them when needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    You're missing the 3rd type of manager: the oblivious, clueless guy who doesn't bother to check on the employees to make sure they're working and doing their tasks correctly. This type is equally as bad as the micromanager because he lets your co-workers get away with wasting time, surfing on the net, talking on the phone, and goofing off.

    The ideal manager is someone who knows his staff and knows what they can handle and delegates when needed and closely watches them when needed.
    Dynamic manager type.

    That's the opposite of the type of management libertarianism usually wants to promote.

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