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    Ask them each separately what the problem is and how they would solve it. That might give you clues as to what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado View Post
    I’m going to split them as much as possible, but there are times during the day they’ll have to work together. We are working in a public high school in the special education department, so there are kids having to suffer from this, too.
    That's why there must be a clear division of responsibilities which includes the times they're working together. That said, now that I know you're working in a unionized environment, I can't comment on how many steps it would take to terminate an employee. Aren't there any management guidelines for dealing with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous View Post
    Ask them each separately what the problem is and how they would solve it. That might give you clues as to what to do.
    Damn, you're smart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bechimo View Post
    That's why there must be a clear division of responsibilities which includes the times they're working together. That said, now that I know you're working in a unionized environment, I can't comment on how many steps it would take to terminate an employee. Aren't there any management guidelines for dealing with this?
    Lots of documentation and trying to gather witnesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado View Post
    Lots of documentation and trying to gather witnesses.
    There must be an HR department so involve them to witness your meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado View Post
    Lots of documentation and trying to gather witnesses.
    Do they get on anyone in the unions nerves out of curiosity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Jack View Post
    Do they get on anyone in the unions nerves out of curiosity?
    I’m thinking they probably do get on the union leaders’ nerves...though I can’t prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocado View Post
    I’m thinking they probably do get on the union leaders’ nerves...though I can’t prove it.
    keep an eye out an an ear open there should reason fail between these two.
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    I like what @bechimo said because it is simple and direct. The risk with that is that they then complain about you and it causes you more headaches. I have used one technique where I help one person understand the other better. It can be a way of coaching them. Type can provide clues on the reasons for conflict. Another thing I would do is to let your boss know about the situation and ask for their ideas on how to deal with it before you do anything. If you do what they suggest you are covered and it may set the stage for getting them split up. Not all your problem. Also I would perhaps me tion the impact it is having on the classroom in terms of causing disruption. and being harmful to the kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    I like what @bechimo said because it is simple and direct. The risk with that is that they then complain about you and it causes you more headaches. I have used one technique where I help one person understand the other better. It can be a way of coaching them. Type can provide clues on the reasons for conflict. Another thing I would do is to let your boss know about the situation and ask for their ideas on how to deal with it before you do anything. If you do what they suggest you are covered and it may set the stage for getting them split up. Not all your problem. Also I would perhaps me tion the impact it is having on the classroom in terms of causing disruption. and being harmful to the kids.
    My mom, who I report to directly, has been advising me to talk with them, but that didn’t work, so my mom started looking for other places in the school to put them. My mom’s boss, though, saw she was preparing the paperwork to trade one of my paras for another para and stopped her. She told my mom she’s moved both of the paras around so much because they were causing trouble everywhere and now that she has the two trouble makers isolated in my room, she doesn’t want to move them again...

    ...so I need to make this work at least till next year.

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