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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Been out of college for a year now, and unfortunately the job I got after graduation has absolutely nothing to do with the Middle East, so I haven't been super motivated to keep learning. HOWEVER, about 5 minutes ago(!!!), I networked my way into a halfway-decent chance at a Middle East Analyst position, so I'm going to start refreshing my writing and reading comprehension skills. Still have my old textbooks, and step 1 is going to be going through my Media Arabic book again.
    Oh, congratulations!

    Are you required to communicate in formal Arabic or a specific dialect? Did you originally learn formal Arabic? It's a difficult language however some English words originated from Arabic so you probably recognise them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptive View Post
    Oh, congratulations!
    Thanks! Keeping my fingers crossed.

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    Are you required to communicate in formal Arabic or a specific dialect? Did you originally learn formal Arabic? It's a difficult language however some English words originated from Arabic so you probably recognise them.
    It was about 98% MSA, and 2% Egyptian dialect (when I studied abroad there). So I'm good to go for any job that requires watching the news and/or reading anything. But I have no idea what's going on in Arabic pop music or comedy films/TV shows unless there are English subtitles, and I sound ridiculous when I try to talk to people. "Dost thou know the whereabouts of the nearest lavatory?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Been out of college for a year now, and unfortunately the job I got after graduation has absolutely nothing to do with the Middle East, so I haven't been super motivated to keep learning. HOWEVER, about 5 minutes ago(!!!), I networked my way into a halfway-decent chance at a Middle East Analyst position, so I'm going to start refreshing my writing and reading comprehension skills. Still have my old textbooks, and step 1 is going to be going through my Media Arabic book again.
    So neat!! My fingers are crossed for you. I am really interested in Middle Eastern culture and architecture, and tried teaching myself Arabic a long time ago. I gave up, though, lol. I think it's awesome you were able to study it seriously.

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    Awesome. Right now I am trying to learn a bit of Japanese because of future endeavors (I've talked about this in another thread.) I've been looking at Kanji (and words), sentence structures, and such. So far it is still at an elementary level. I enjoy it because I am watching online videos in Japanese... and I got to learn quite a bit of Japanese online culture (many of them very funny.)

    Some tools that I have used (I might look for something similar in a few years to learn another language.)

    Anki - It's like a flashcard for smartphones (but also available for computers.) Basically, you input as many words and phrases as you want. Depending on how many words or phrases you want to learn per day, it'll remind you to learn between 10-30 words. And, depending on how familiar you are with the word, you can say that it is easy, good, hard and it'll bring that card back to the deck later in the week. Some languages already have a whole list of words and phrases already created by others. I'd assume French, Spanish, and Japanese have a lot of Anki decks. So, if one of your first French words was "Bonjour" you'll continue seeing that word until you remember that it means "Hello" in French. then after, say 1-15 days, you'll see it reappear so that you don't forget what it means.

    Media - because Japan has a big media presence, at least online, I look through nicococo, anime, video games, and documentaries in Japanese. So far, this is mostly for getting accustomed to hearing words and phrases besides just looking at them. Even though I am already accustomed to hearing the language, I am not accustomed to hearing the language for words. But when I do, I can sort of guess what one means. This is actually a great way to listen to French and Spanish.

    Windows Japanese IME - great tool for typing in japanese. It makes it so that you'll start remembering the Katakana and Hiragana you type, but it also allows you to change hiragana to Kanji. head to a place that you can type rudimentary Japanese, and you'll learn a lot.

    JED - it's a Japanese - English translator (and vice versa) I use it to search for Kanji through radicals to find words. When looking through material I can copy and paste, this is my go to. I can search for most kanji this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    It was about 98% MSA, and 2% Egyptian dialect (when I studied abroad there). So I'm good to go for any job that requires watching the news and/or reading anything. But I have no idea what's going on in Arabic pop music or comedy films/TV shows unless there are English subtitles, and I sound ridiculous when I try to talk to people. "Dost thou know the whereabouts of the nearest lavatory?"
    ROFL. They have so many soap operas and they constantly producing new ones all with the same plot line (village girl can't marry village boy). Their talk shows are also amusing, the women are heavily made up and spend more time giggling than talking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Thanks! Keeping my fingers crossed.


    It was about 98% MSA, and 2% Egyptian dialect (when I studied abroad there). So I'm good to go for any job that requires watching the news and/or reading anything. But I have no idea what's going on in Arabic pop music or comedy films/TV shows unless there are English subtitles, and I sound ridiculous when I try to talk to people. "Dost thou know the whereabouts of the nearest lavatory?"
    I know how to read Qur'an Arabic but I don't know how to read Standard Arabic. The missing signs and symbols just throws me off.
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    I think I might teach myself Italian or Portuguese. I can understand written Spanish well enough (have trouble with the spoken form... can't keep up). Italian and Portuguese look similar.
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    I've already studied three, but I'd like to learn French, and I'd like to dabble in Sanskrit someday.

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    I'm dabbling in French and Dutch with Duolingo 40 minutes a day. There's no way I'm going to become fluent this way, but right now I'm just trying to get the basics and prepare for more instruction later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumi View Post
    I'm dabbling in French and Dutch with Duolingo 40 minutes a day. There's no way I'm going to become fluent this way, but right now I'm just trying to get the basics and prepare for more instruction later.
    For English speakers, this shows how many hours you're supposed to learn a specific language to become proficient: Language Difficulty Ranking | Effective Language Learning

    Dutch and French are both in Category I (575 - 600 hours).

    In case you're interested.

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