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Who's in Corporate?

Elfboy

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1) what's it like?
2) what job experience did you need?
3) did you need a degree?
4) how many years did it take to build your resume
5) was any sort of networking required to get your job?
6) what sort of skills do you need? what sort of skills do they look for on your resume?
7) what do you like about your job?
8) what do you dislike about your job?
9) do they like ENFP 7w8 Sp/Sx's
 

Giggly

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Start your own company, Elfboy, and be the CEO.
 

ThatsWhatHeSaid

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1) what's it like?

It's fucking awesome.

2) what job experience did you need?

Minor writing experience; it's a start up.

3) did you need a degree?

No, but I have an unrelated degree (law) that helped win over my boss.

4) how many years did it take to build your resume

I built it in about an hour. I can do yours in an hour too.

(The quality of your resume is determined by the demands of the job.)

5) was any sort of networking required to get your job?

Yes. It's the first time I got a job through a friend, but it was much easier than going through the awfulness of job applications and interviews. One interview, done.

6) what sort of skills do you need? what sort of skills do they look for on your resume?

First, I work as a content manager and social media guy, officially. But I ended up creating presentations, doing a lot of business writing, Illustrator/Photoshop, and doing a lot of UI/UX stuff. I also help with business development. Skills needed for my job tasks: writing, editing, MS Office, basic understanding of design and presentation, being organized, being assertive, knowing how to set boundaries (so I don't get overburdened with requests), and good listening skills (so I don't misunderstand projects). Skills that have helped me gravitate towards the top of the company in a relatively short time: wit, knowing who to make friends with, not being afraid to speak up or be a leader while still deferring to my superiors when push came to shove, having very good communication skills, not losing my cool.

7) what do you like about your job?

I get to write and create powerpoints (which I love since I like explaining things) and do minor graphic design. Things are rapidly changing from day to day because of my boss's personality and the nature of start ups, so I don't have to sit with any single project for too long. I have a lot of great, GREAT coworkers which feels like a tribe. Because things are small (30 people) I can exert a lot of influence on business decisions. I also learn a TON about management and about business strategy--what to do and what not to do. Great lessons about leadership and growth that I couldn't read in a book.

8) what do you dislike about your job?

Having superiors; watching them make poor management and business decisions.

9) do they like ENFP 7w8 Sp/Sx's

YES THEY FUCKING LOVE THEM. I don't know. I don't type everyone at work. I bet most people are sensors, equal mix of P and J. This is what I would tell you: if you're smart and understand that a business is primarily about making money, then you'll do fine. You don't have to be a bastard to be successful, in fact, you can and should keep your values and infuse them into your thought process. But your values should be viewed less as a guide and more as a boundary. You're an ENFP and you want to champion certain causes you view as just. That's fine, but you need to keep in mind that in a business, the main cause is money, not justice.

I don't think your type presents a problem for either your success or happiness if you can successfully separate your personal priorities in life from the priorities in your job. If you have a burning desire to align your life goals and career goals, then you need to make sure that your corporation cares as much about your passion as they do about profit--that's rare. If you can tease apart your goals from your corporation's goal--not abandoning, but keeping them in check and in perspective--then your type is irrelevant and your intelligence and skills are what determine your career satisfaction and success.
 

Elfboy

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1) what's it like?

It's fucking awesome.

2) what job experience did you need?

Minor writing experience; it's a start up.

3) did you need a degree?

No, but I have an unrelated degree (law) that helped win over my boss.

4) how many years did it take to build your resume

I built it in about an hour. I can do yours in an hour too.

(The quality of your resume is determined by the demands of the job.)

5) was any sort of networking required to get your job?

Yes. It's the first time I got a job through a friend, but it was much easier than going through the awfulness of job applications and interviews. One interview, done.

6) what sort of skills do you need? what sort of skills do they look for on your resume?

First, I work as a content manager and social media guy, officially. But I ended up creating presentations, doing a lot of business writing, Illustrator/Photoshop, and doing a lot of UI/UX stuff. I also help with business development. Skills needed for my job tasks: writing, editing, MS Office, basic understanding of design and presentation, being organized, being assertive, knowing how to set boundaries (so I don't get overburdened with requests), and good listening skills (so I don't misunderstand projects). Skills that have helped me gravitate towards the top of the company in a relatively short time: wit, knowing who to make friends with, not being afraid to speak up or be a leader while still deferring to my superiors when push came to shove, having very good communication skills, not losing my cool.

7) what do you like about your job?

I get to write and create powerpoints (which I love since I like explaining things) and do minor graphic design. Things are rapidly changing from day to day because of my boss's personality and the nature of start ups, so I don't have to sit with any single project for too long. I have a lot of great, GREAT coworkers which feels like a tribe. Because things are small (30 people) I can exert a lot of influence on business decisions. I also learn a TON about management and about business strategy--what to do and what not to do. Great lessons about leadership and growth that I couldn't read in a book.

8) what do you dislike about your job?

Having superiors; watching them make poor management and business decisions.

9) do they like ENFP 7w8 Sp/Sx's

YES THEY FUCKING LOVE THEM. I don't know. I don't type everyone at work. I bet most people are sensors, equal mix of P and J. This is what I would tell you: if you're smart and understand that a business is primarily about making money, then you'll do fine. You don't have to be a bastard to be successful, in fact, you can and should keep your values and infuse them into your thought process. But your values should be viewed less as a guide and more as a boundary. You're an ENFP and you want to champion certain causes you view as just. That's fine, but you need to keep in mind that in a business, the main cause is money, not justice.

I don't think your type presents a problem for either your success or happiness if you can successfully separate your personal priorities in life from the priorities in your job. If you have a burning desire to align your life goals and career goals, then you need to make sure that your corporation cares as much about your passion as they do about profit--that's rare. If you can tease apart your goals from your corporation's goal--not abandoning, but keeping them in check and in perspective--then your type is irrelevant and your intelligence and skills are what determine your career satisfaction and success.

you make it sound really easy :D
 

gromit

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Yes I got a degree in engineering, applied for a job I saw online and have it now. A colleague who had formerly worked at a place where I interned was at the new company when I applied, so I think that helped.

They wanted engineering skills and reasoning ability, which I gained through internships and school and they also trained me on the job too.
 

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Sure. Why shouldn't it be? People sometimes make it harder than it seems. If you can demonstrate your value, people will want to work with you.

so it's easy if you have value/hard skills? makes sense. I don't have any of those yet lol just a lot of drive, confidence and ambition
 

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do you find me too disagreeable for an office job :D

I don't know, but it seems like you want to be the boss, so why not just jump right to that?
 

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That is whole truth:

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I think you want to define corporate, I work for a health trust which is a corporation, although most people who say "corporate" mean the capitalist PLCs.
 

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I don't know, but it seems like you want to be the boss, so why not just jump right to that?

that requires investment capital :yes:
 

ThatsWhatHeSaid

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so it's easy if you have value/hard skills? makes sense. I don't have any of those yet lol just a lot of drive, confidence and ambition

That's important too. Some people will look at that and believe in that alone, but most people--smart people--want to see that you have skills/knowledge/experience or that you'll be able to learn quickly and perform well.
 

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9) do they like ENFP 7w8 Sp/Sx's

YES THEY FUCKING LOVE THEM. I don't know. I don't type everyone at work. I bet most people are sensors, equal mix of P and J. This is what I would tell you: if you're smart and understand that a business is primarily about making money, then you'll do fine. You don't have to be a bastard to be successful, in fact, you can and should keep your values and infuse them into your thought process. But your values should be viewed less as a guide and more as a boundary. You're an ENFP and you want to champion certain causes you view as just. That's fine, but you need to keep in mind that in a business, the main cause is money, not justice.

I don't think your type presents a problem for either your success or happiness if you can successfully separate your personal priorities in life from the priorities in your job. If you have a burning desire to align your life goals and career goals, then you need to make sure that your corporation cares as much about your passion as they do about profit--that's rare. If you can tease apart your goals from your corporation's goal--not abandoning, but keeping them in check and in perspective--then your type is irrelevant and your intelligence and skills are what determine your career satisfaction and success.

oh don't worry. I am a dark worker, Objectivist, entrepreneur in training. my values are fully aligned with all aspects of business :yes:
 

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I think you want to define corporate, I work for a health trust which is a corporation, although most people who say "corporate" mean the capitalist PLCs.

Yes, I thought he meant public companies.

that requires investment capital :yes:

Then get some!
So many companies started with nothing.
 

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1) what's it like?
2) what job experience did you need?
3) did you need a degree?
4) how many years did it take to build your resume
5) was any sort of networking required to get your job?
6) what sort of skills do you need? what sort of skills do they look for on your resume?
7) what do you like about your job?
8) what do you dislike about your job?
9) do they like ENFP 7w8 Sp/Sx's

I'm not sure what you're really looking for.
 
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