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Takes On The Johnny Depp-Amber Heard Horrorshow

Tomb1

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In spite of what a bloodbath both sides have made this, I see the nail in Depp's coffin as the failure on his part to introduce any testimony whatsoever from any Disney Exec (or former Disney Exec) to support his assertion that Disney denied him any movies because of Amber Heard's OP-ED. Any movie exec for that matter.

Certainly Depp's lawyers could have used the subpoena power to drag a studio representative in there from Disney to give testimony on the matter. Fact nobody from Disney was called in tells me their testimony would not have been favorable to Depp's claims. (Thus far....he still has some witnesses left to call)
 
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There's also the thing that, although Depp might have swayed people in the court of popular opinion (I think Heard has looked a lot worse after this, mostly because Depp already looked bad so nothing super-surprising is coming out), the actual outcome of the case is dependent on a tight burden of proof window.

I think it just tarnishes both of their reputations and careers. Pretty clear they were a volatile and not positive match.
 

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In spite of what a bloodbath both sides have made this, I see the nail in Depp's coffin as the failure on his part to introduce any testimony whatsoever from any Disney Exec (or former Disney Exec) to support his assertion that Disney denied him any movies because of Amber Heard's OP-ED. Any movie exec for that matter.

Certainly Depp's lawyers could have used the subpoena power to drag a studio representative in there from Disney to give testimony on the matter. Fact nobody from Disney was called in tells me their testimony would not have been favorable to Depp's claims. (Thus far....he still has some witnesses left to call)
Wouldn't it be a self-incriminating testimony, though? They'd probably have to compensate him if they'd admit to it.
 

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Wouldn't it be a self-incriminating testimony, though?
No. But if either side had a concern about self-incrimination of some frivolous 'wrongful termination' action down the pipeline, Depp would just execute a document waiving his supposed rights to sue Disney for any testimony that they would give as well as executing a stipulation of confidentiality that whatever testimony given can not be used in any other Court proceeding. It is pretty common place in civil lawsuits where the testifying party is "professionally paranoid" that their testimony might incriminate themselves or their company in some future proceeding.

Also in a civil suit, testifying witnesses cannot plead the fifth unless the testimony would expose them to criminal prosecution, and there would be no criminal liability against Disney if they testified that they had chosen not to work with Depp because of the OP-ED. Pleading the fifth is baseless if it is for the purpose of protecting one's self from civil liability.

But even civilly, Depp would not have any valid basis for recompense against the studios should the allegations turn out to have been false. That tab gets picked up by the defamer. Studios can openly refuse to work with (and/or stop working with) actors/actresses based solely on believing in allegations of misconduct/abuse. Studios have done it before right in the open even where the actor denied the allegations and the evidence presented as more circumstantial in nature.

That said, if it was a concern or disney execs were just, well, "professionally paranoid", Depp's lawyer would get that waiver of rights document signed and a stipulation of confidentiality in place because ultimately that is testimony Depp's lawyers want to elicit and that would be it. Disney would not be able to resist subpoena. Even though Disney has a "sovereign status," they are still subject to subpoena.

On the flipside, the grounds for a wrongful termination action against Disney is so baseless that Depp's lawyers would not be willing to sacrifice/greatly weaken their more substantive defamation claim against Heard to maintain the possibility of a half-baked wrongful termination claim against Disney. In a multi-million dollar lawsuit Disney would not be left out from the witness list unless they did not have favorable testimony to give.

Heard's lawyers, in fact, have already sent a subpoena to Disney for records, including "all documents concerning any decision to cast or not cast Mr. Depp in any future Pirates of the Carribean films":


Whatever documents Heard's lawyers obtained through that subpoena would have also been turned over to Depp's lawyers as well...so Depp's lawyers probably decided not to call anybody from Disney in to testify because the documents contained information which is highly unfavorable to their defamation claim, and now they're just trying to wing it with Depp's star power and second-hand speculation through coterie of friends and workers .
 
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I’m enjoying watching the former metoo Heard defending crowd suddenly backtrack and scramble to eat some of their past words. Lots of great memes coming out of that. Also great to see any high profile case that can draw attention to how broken our family court system is. And great to see another metoo icon with egg on her face. It makes Asia Argento and Cristina Garcia look like saints in comparison to Heard

I could care less if either works again in Hollywood
 

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I get a kick out of the way that Fox titles these youtube snippets of cross-examination. Like this one: "Amber Heard lawyer accused of harassing Depp witness"

Heard's lawyer had to ask the guy the same question because the guy tried to artfully dodge answering it, not once, but twice. When asked a third time to answer the actual question, Depp's lawyer then made a baseless harrassment objection that the Judge overruled. Fox makes Depp's baseless objection (which the Judge overruled!) the synopsis of the clip...I would have made it the part where the witness is squirming around to artfully duck having to admit but finally does admit that he knows of no document that supports the claim that Depp had a deal for Pirates 6. Heard's lawyer was not harassing the guy....she was just doing her job in not letting the guy weasel his way out of answering a straightforward question that goes to an essential portion of Depp's lawsuit.

Depp's other witness... a so-called "expert in the entertainment industry"...was just as bad. To paraphrase what he testified to on direct examination: "It is the Metoo movement. Depp was canceled. That's automatically what happens when allegations of abuse are made. Just like Kevin Spacey." And then he prattles on about Kevin Spacey. That is the substance of his opinion that Disney refused to work with Depp because of the OP-ED. That logical fallacy...trying to reason from the general to the specific...is exactly what that is....trying to render a scientific and qualified opinion on a very specific instance of economic consequence relying only upon broad brushstrokes of pop-culture trends.

Heard's attorneys did in fact take the deposition of a Walt Disney Corporate Designee. On Cross-examination, Heard's attorney made Depp's expert admit that the deposition of the corporate designee beared no favorable support for Depp. Disney had not even seen the OP-ED.

The Judge has no business not tossing out Depp's case after Depp's lawyers rest as Depp has not put forward any credible evidence that the OP-ED harmed his ability to make money or lost him Pirates 6...this whole general pop-culture fluff red herring...."look-at-kevin-spacey"..."look at the metoo movement"... argument that Depp is relying upon is simultaneously both a complete joke and the perfect hill for his frivolous lawsuit to die on.
 
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