Thalassa
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actually, I'm completely serious.
That's really sad, and doesn't sound at all ENTJ.
actually, I'm completely serious.
it's worked like a charm and I am a firm believer now that you can force people to respect you
That's really sad, and doesn't sound at all ENTJ.
You can force people to both listen and comply with your commands, yet getting their genuine respect is something entirely separate from that.
Also "dressing like a business man" doesn't make you ENTJ. What the...
let me rephrase, I act like a caracature of an ENTJ (business suit, authoritative, formal, powerful etc) most people I've asked who know about mbti but don't know me very well guess I'm INTJ or ENTJ, so it seems to be working. aside from that, the type I'm most like internally is definitely INFP
I'm so sure you're an FP I'd put money on it.
ENFP, I'm absolutely certain.
I think FPs can develop a hard front in order to get respect, though, I can see that. It makes sense. I've done similar things in my life, indeed.
I hate people that want to look professional to make up for their insecurity about professional matters. Makes me enraged at the world, because then I will be forced to act excessively professional just because of their posturing.
it is sad, people shouldn't disrespect you just because you aren't an uptight bitch like they are. some people just like to have fun and have a sense of humor
I suppose it's difficult to describe online, but if you saw me IRL, you'd probably see what I mean
PS: great signature
I don't know either, the vibe is completely subjective. if you don't have Fe, you seem like you do. I definitely get Si from you and you also seem somewhat introverted, so these things make you look a little like an ISFJ sometimes. you also seem kinda seriously sometimes, but to an ENFP 7w8/8w7, that's not really sayin much
guess I exaggerated when I said "forced" (it sounds cooler). I do action (being cordial, respectful and professional) and they respect me (what I meant by "make" was performing an action to get a result and not stopping until the result is had). the force part really only comes in when they try to disrespect (which doesn't happen so often anymore) and I talk over them, Te bitch slap them or speak really authoritatively. it's not that I'm not polite/cordial most of the time, but people certainly wouldn't respect me IRL if I used the same silly, ridiculous speaking style that I'm using nowYou don't have to conduct yourself in an overly anal, authoritarian fashion to get respect, and most times the people that are like that aren't truly respect from their colleagues and peers anyway; If anything it makes those people appear insecure, especially if they act this way while in some elevated position over others. You can still be cordial and be respected, you just stand up for yourself when necessary and exude some amount of self-confidence and self-awareness.
I think most types that aren't TJ probably do this at least occasionally. it's called looking professional. I mean come on, who actually has the same personality at work as they do at home. answer: entrepreneurs because they can, and TJs
ENFJ as judged outwardly; ENTP in terms of mind functioning.
elfboy i love you but how in the world are you getting ISFJ vibes from marm? (where do you see the Si especially?)
I've avoided "looking professional" for most of my adult life and putting up a hard front isn't always the same as dressing like a business person or "forcing people to respect you."
It does usually involve acting like an asshole, though. It can be a good way to protect yourself, you know, to make people believe that you're mean, that you're a force to be reckoned with.
But an ExFP can be a force to be reckoned with all the same. You don't have to try too hard to be a pseudo-ENTJ to get respect. In fact from the way you come across on line I seriously doubt it's convincing (no offense).
(a sense of order and groundedness)
It's called tertiary Te.
I'm an older ENFP than you so I've developed my thinking and sensing functions more, probably.
I don't see where you're getting the Fe at all. If anyone has a sense of "propriety" here, it's you, with your complaints about women who don't act lady-like, yada yada yada.