Southern Kross
Away with the fairies
- Joined
- Dec 22, 2008
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- MBTI Type
- INFP
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- 4w5
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- so/sp
Sorry I don't mean to create obstacles. I'm just trying to find ways to that might help clarify things. I'm not intentionally focussing on Fe, we just started talking about that and then the conversation carried on down that path. I'm not consciously steering the discussion that way. I guess also it does make it easier for me to discuss Judging functions as I lead with one.Granted, I'm e5 least so variant- which is the Mac Daddy of introverts (and I agree with uumlau, etype/variant makes a significant difference)- but there's something about the systematic emphasis on Fe when discussing INFJs that seems off to me. It's convoluting discussion, over and over again. I'm not going to bother going into it, because I don't have the diplomacy fidelia has (or 21%, or March seems to have as well) and I don't know how to add the fluff and decorum that Fi (sometimes) seems to require. I'll just say I think it's preventing the discussion from actually being very productive.
If you feel a different path would be more productive, set one up.
Absolutely. I didn't mean to say that I think you guys have it all easy.Regarding the above quote- it actually seems to me like if there's any type that can always walk into a new environment full of new people and instantly interact as if they already know everyone.....it's a Ne/Se dom. (I mean- just to show how 'the grass is greener'- it seems to me like Pe dom/aux have the advantage in this regard.)
I pretty much agree that it's more specifically about "the self". The reason I lean more to talking about "individuals" is that I worry if I use "self" that it will be interpreted as "myself". I get lazy with the language because it can be exhausting to explain everything in detail with all the caveats.I don't know how much I agree with what she wrote because I don't understand it. I do know that the phrase "Fi is about the individual" is problematic to me, it could mean too many things. I have fought the urge before (even before you joined the forum) to make some comment about how it seems (to me) Fi is more about 'the self' than 'the individual'- for the same reason that I do see a grain of truth in the whole 'team' thing- but I didn't have an especially diplomatic way to say it. While I'm probably one of the more rough-around-the-edges (read: curmudgeonly) INFJs around here, I still try to be relatively careful about starting conflict simply because I see something that doesn't sit right with me.