I didn't see that coming! Could you please humor me in my desire for as much redundant clarity here as possible?
So to be clear: [MENTION=5871]Southern Kross[/MENTION], am I understanding correctly that you actually
see that PeaceBaby interacts with INFJs as if our emotional energy is a metaphorical food source for her? And you further see that this setup is the source of her attraction to INFJs despite all the claimed pain and difficulty she claims she experiences in interaction with us?
I wonder if I misunderstand, so want to be as clear as possible.
Which part don't you get? The hunger and void behind the hunger part, some or all of the following note, both? If you could focus me better with specific parts and if possible specific questions, I'd think I'd be better able answer your question.
Thank you for accepting it. And just to be clear, my boundary setting with you about conversation #1 and #2 isn't specific to or even primarily sourced in the PeaceBaby part of our discussion. It's more general, based on my emerging understanding of where you and I are each coming overall, when in comes to Ni-Se perception, at least in INFJs. (If I've misunderstood where you're coming from more generally we could talk about it to get me clear, but it was based on various pieces of information even beyond our dialogue).
This is part of why I'm confused about the first bit that I quoted in this reply. I don't understand why, if you see that PeaceBaby seeks to feed on INFJs' emotional energy, you would want us to appreciate her view and get along with her. This is why I feel like maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean when you say "
That was my reading of it also" in reply to that part of my description.
Is feeding on other people's emotional energy (like PeaceBaby seeks to do) an okay thing for someone to do, in your view? And I don't even know if that's the right question. I ask because for me such a configuration is - to be blunt - functionally parasitic. And while I can understand that parasitically feeding entities need to survive just as much as anyone, I myself personally don't want to try get along with one whose desired food source is me or people like me. So .... what am I missing or misunderstanding here re: your perspective on this particular topic? (These are not rhetorical questions).
One other thing that's been hovering in the back of my mind. Southern Kross, I was struck by a particular strong difference between your response to PB's approach and my INFP partner's response when I initially described some of PB's comments to her. Specifically: It seems that you two had almost opposite reactions as related to identifying with PeaceBaby.
1. My INFP partner did not identify with PB at all. And I mean, at
all. The lack of identification was so strong that my partner's immediate response to my description was: "She's not INFP. She doesn't use words like an INFP. She doesn't feel to me like an INFP." (PB was in her "speaking in Ti-ish" mode at that point). The notable thing for me in bringing this up is
not the question of "Is PB INFP or not" - it's my INFP partner's clear lack of identification with PB. It was from that space that my partner came to the analysis she came to in
this comment here.
2. I see the above in contrast to a comment from you that was part of the thread in your dialogue with [MENTION=6275]the state i am in[/MENTION]:
To me this (especially the part I bolded) suggests some deep level of - if "identification" isn't the right word, something in that neighborhood. In any case, it seems opposite to my INFP's "I don't feel her as INFP at all" non-identification response.
So I'm going to be really blunt here. PB initially hooked me in by "speaking Ti" in a way that piqued my curiosity. With even a bit of observation of that practice, it seemed to me that PB is quite smart and learns how to "speak" various cognitive and feeling-tone languages that will appeal to whoever she is trying to - to use the most polite possible word I can think of here -
affect. Like .... there are trigger tones and words and approaches that appeal to various possible audiences. In my case, it was that Ti-like approach, and that approach left room for my partner to not-identify with PB at that point.
So here's the really really blunt part: I do wonder if in other parts of her communication, PB was somehow able to "speak" in trigger tones (or something like that) that somehow pulled you into that strong identification with her that you describe. Is that possible? I really hope this isn't too much bluntness here. I could be wrong but this really struck me and has been hanging in the back of my head for a little while now.