JocktheMotie
Habitual Fi LineStepper
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We're like, all mean and prickly. And stuff.
"Not all cacti have flowers that bloom because some cacti are self-pollinating. The flowers are usually on the plant for short periods, in some cases blooming only for an evening"
I also self-pollinate. And at night! That picture really is perfect.
Difference #31 between INTPs and ENTPs:
Self-pollination vs. cross-pollination.
The whole question was whether you are ENTP or ESTP.
No one loves me like I do. I only settle for the best![]()
Nah.
Hearing a song and dancing along with it feeling the beat. That's SP behavior.
Hearing a song and listening to the lyrics, analyzing the purpose of the song, picking at the lyrics to see if they makes sense, mocking the lyrics, etc. that's NT behavior.
I relate to the latter.
EDIT: and here's another SP vs NT thing that I grew up with. My dad (ISTP) always encouraged my to get into a skilled trade (carpenter, plumber, roofer, etc) where I'd be working with my hands. I always hated that idea because I knew those jobs would never provide enough mental stimulation. I ended going to school and studying psychology.
Just my two cents:
One might say my INFJ foreman, both of my NT ex-bfs, and I should not, for all intents and purposes, enjoy heavy equipment, heavy physical labor, being covered in oil and grime, and managing dangerous engines, but we were there. We loved the machines for many of the same reasons as the SPs and SJs that surrounded us.
In my experience, extroverted NTs can sound *very* sensory. My ENTJ best friend comes off as an ESTJ frequently and even tests as one sometimes, but so many other ENTJs I know well. Speak to them for a minute, and you'll know they're N dominants. Consider that an extroverted NT might be more inclined to test the waters, try the fugu, take a dare, etc because they're experiencers. They want to see what happens when XYZ occurs, even if it seems perhaps inadvisable.
On the other hand, I've also known S-primaries to seem very N unless you examine them closely. I wouldn't take certain "traits", per se, such as pursuits and hobbies, to delineate one's entire image of a person until you can see how they apply themselves or how they were raised.
The enshrined hypothesis of being The Unknowable, I've encountered this with many NTs, and have simply sidestepped it or let it ride, figuring whatever I've gleaned from their behavior, body language and other data will either steer me in the right direction or they'll actually break down and TELL me something they want me to know. Otherwise, I just wait and accumulate. They hate to believe they're telegraphing ANYTHING to the outside world, an illusion of supreme control. Sure, they make fantastic poker players. But they're not air-tight, no matter how much they'd like to believe it.
Their often unfounded and delusional beliefs that they're geniuses who are always right.
The above statement only applies to *some* NTs, not all.
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Their often unfounded and delusional beliefs that they're geniuses who are always right.
The above statement only applies to *some* NTs, not all.
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Their often unfounded and delusional beliefs that they're geniuses who are always right.
The above statement only applies to *some* NTs, not all.
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Trueche!I dislike stupid NTs more than anything. It's horrible because they still believe they're more intelligent than others simply because of the NT. It's like delusional squared.
I dislike stupid NTs more than anything. It's horrible because they still believe they're more intelligent than others simply because of the NT. It's like delusional squared.
Stupid INTJs are the worst, because they still think they alone possess the brilliant master plan that will lead them to success, power and global control, except they don't because they're retards.
Also please note how I acknowledged the existence of stupid NTs instead of getting pissy that my group (NTs) was being generalized about. This is called being realistic. There are a number of negative qualities characteristic of the NT group, and just because any given one of them doesn't apply to me personally doesn't mean that characteristic trend doesn't exist.