An INTJ will not live happily for the rest of his life with an ESFP. An INTP might though.
Very true. An INTJs very intuitive way of speaking will be entirely misunderstood by ESFPs.
An INTJ will not live happily for the rest of his life with an ESFP. An INTP might though.
You guys are probably right about the J/P thing. I will need to figure out a new way to judge J/P differences. Any suggestions?
Yes... these kinds of people drive me crazy, too. I think there are various types who behave that way at certain times. Personally, I have trouble enduring female ESTJs... for similar reasons. I can't stand listening to what they talk about... and we don't speak the same language....
So this type of girl is usually always talking. Talking about nonsense.
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An INTJ will not live happily for the rest of his life with an ESFP. An INTP might though.
That first paragraph was a sad attempt to interject humor into what appeared to be a tense conversation that was veering of the original track...I wasn't feeling scornful, actually, just a little amused at what looked from the outside like a disjointed tit for tat.
I getcha. And I wasn't actually accusing you of over-much scorn. Really just observing the existence of the INXJ mission, that willingness to know what's right and be short with everything else. (It relates to the OP too because that annoyance comes from somewhere, dunnit?).
An INTJ will not live happily for the rest of his life with an ESFP. An INTP might though.
This type of posting makes me question my INTJ love.
By the way, I have neat handwriting. I forced myself to learn to write neatly in junior high school. I used to practice with handwriting books. Very lame way to judge P/J
Your profile pic makes me question my ENFP love.
And "neat" is also a very subjective word. Neat handwriting to you may not be the same as neat handwriting to me. That ENFP friend I mentioned told me she had very neat handwriting. When I looked at it, I wanted to throw up. So, many of the INTJs up above say their handwriting is messy and you say your handwriting is neat, but until one ultimate judge compares them (that's me), no one can really be sure.
Also, I already addressed that its probably a bad ways to judge P/J. Read before you post.
Why not? We'd have something to gripe about, and apparently we're pretty excited by that prospect.
There's something to be said for the interesting dynamic that is apparent in INTJ/ESFP parings.
That's the word we use to describe our relationship as spouses. Interesting. I'm a bit more balanced than he is, and his T is softening as he ages. And even though he drives me crazy with his constant devil's advocating in discussions, I love the intellectual challenge.
Plus, not all of use do the minimal communication-thing you've got going on. That includes the girl you're talking about btw...
Anyways, the purpose of this thread is to help me figure out (or state to me if you already know) what type are these girls. I will state for sure that they're E (for obvious reasons). Both of these girls were also neat in their handwriting (my simplest method of detecting J/P), so I will state that they were J's as well. Details aside, I've seen them present PowerPoint presentations as well, and they were effectively organized, so more indication of being J over P (b/c P's are usually messy).
Talking about nonsense like an ESFP does might be irritating but nothing gets me more on my nerves like an INTJ who insults people left and right without knowing what the hell he´s saying really.
So, many of the INTJs up above say their handwriting is messy and you say your handwriting is neat, but until one ultimate judge compares them (that's me), no one can really be sure.
tee-hee"They who annoy INTJs "
In appropriate ENFP fashion, I have not read through this thread, so, short and sweet answer based on the thread title...
Everybody.