simulatedworld
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Being able to discriminate and recognize real patterns is a sign of intelligence. Being able to recognize patterns, regardless if there is an underlying force behind them, is also a sign of intelligence.
Imagining patterns where none exist is a sign of stupidity, especially when those patterns involve extremely implausible circumstances.
No, I meant that your comment reeked of the typical leftist nonsense; this comment simply serves to supplement my original remark.
Wow, INTJ thinks I'm a leftist. Go figure. I'm actually pretty moderate on most political issues, but I guess in INTJ-delusion land everything we don't like is automatically termed "leftist."
It is perfectly natural. Babies recognize differences very early in life, and humans naturally gravitate toward that which is most like themselves.
Even Babies Discriminate: A NurtureShock Excerpt. - Newsweek.com
Deluded social experiments that seek to mold people in the way their inane theorists want them to be is not natural.
Recognizing differences is natural and normal. Presuming other negative and unrelated characteristics in a given individual based on those differences is prejudice.
So while it's perfectly normal to notice differences between groups, it's not normal or reasonable to assume that everyone in x demographic possesses y negative trait. This is the kind of crap you get from dumb INTJs.
The problem is, that even if Dale was an INTJ, he would clearly be a fringe exception. Yes, I would consider his actions and behaviors idiotic, and revealing of a latent stupidity, but he remains intelligent in a way that most ESFPs aren't: he shows ingenuity, concern for abstract reality, and has a vast amount of processing power to utilize his acquired knowledge.
That's true--and most ESFPs remain intelligent in numerous ways that most INTJs aren't. There's more than one kind of intelligence, get it?
Dale is quite irrational, which seems unlikely to me if his Te was developed enough to be a pure INTJ. Dale is also a caricature of the "paranoid conspiracy nut," and as such, I take his personality at face value and nothing more. I don't know of any "conspiracy nuts" in real life, only drug addicts or on television.
I don't suppose it occurred to you that paranoid conspiracy nuts are quite often INTJs? There's a reason they're stereotyped that way.
Pattern recognition is not limited to Ni, nor is believing in "conspiracies." Go to any conspiracy website and you will notice that the vast majority of contributors are NTs of all types; but wait, so is most of the internet!
Intellect is what "NTs are good at." I apologize if this comes as a surprise or shatters your saccharine view of the world.
Your view of intelligence is limited to the kind of intelligence you see in yourself and others like you. And being an NT myself, I hardly see how accepting your erroneous position that NTs are roundly more intelligent than everyone else would be threatening to my self-image.
NTs are good at one particular kind of intelligence; that is, the NT kind. Your view marginalizes other forms of intelligence (such as sensory/tactile or emotional intelligence) as meaningless, which is not the case.
Although, it does fit conveniently into your INTJ-supremacist worldview, so carry on.
"Left-ophobia"? I don't fear leftists, only call them out on their bullsh*t.
And yet you've already decided I'm a leftist based on...nothing.
As for "ubiquitous" belief in conspiracy theories, this is your stupid (ENTP) assertion with little basis in anything other than your limited (ENTP) head.
Oh, I forgot. I'm not an INTJ, so I'm stupid.
I don't see the irony. Dale Gribble is fictional and nobody I have ever met fit into his profile. Not even the most driven "conspiracy theorist."
The irony is that your far rightist, INTJ-supremacist ignorance as to the multi-faceted nature of intelligence falls exactly in line with typical stereotypes about moronic INTJs.
Even other INTJs in this thread are calling you out on this. It's ironic because you fit the conspiracy theory nut stereotype so well:
--INTJ
--Far rightist
--Believe that non-NT forms of intelligence aren't real intelligence
--Have a lot more in common with Dale Gribble than you realize.