Xander
Lex Parsimoniae
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Okay first off this stuff is new to me, I don't have complete understanding of it and I'm posting this topic to work through my thinking and to see what other's say. As such please do add to any and all statements made "as far as I understand this...".
Also I'd like to warn those who are feeling defensive, this stuff is mean't to cut right to the core so either get yourself feeling happier before reading on or brace for impact (if I get this right that is...).
Lastly (this is a personal bugbear), should someone find an "official" theory to encompass all this prattling, I'd like to say right now, I'm unaware of it and no I'm not going to trawl the internet to try to find out if my thinking is validated by those who are paid to think about these things.
Right, principles.
Duality -
If you are one thing then you are it's opposite simultaneously. If you are honest, then you're also a scheming deceiver.
This is not a philosophy but something I've observed after having read MacGuffin's signature way back on INTP when he quoted Walt Whitman
Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Since that point I've noted the common things like a T's feelings warping their logic or an Ss intuition assembling conspiracies. Also I've noted within people that those who value honesty are dishonest but reason why it is necessary to themselves whilst placing those who are dishonest on a list of people to heal or terminate.
Projection-
(I'm liable to get this even more wrong than duality so please bear with me)
You project your own personality onto others.
You project what you don't like about yourself onto others.
Ergo when I was just about ready to rant for ages about people blindly following what their predecessors set down as "fact" without a challenge I came to a juddering halt. What really wound me up was that I wasn't standing up for what I thought was true in everyday life. I'd nicely packaged it and placed it on someone else so I could demonise it and put them on a burning pyre.
Also when chatting to an INFP he told me that he went to someone's house and they brought him in and then went and made themselves a cup of tea. He said he'd made a point and said "It's customary to offer a guest a drink you know". It occurred to me that he was both not compensating for the fact that she's a T and probably hadn't thought about it and also treating her like she'd deliberately don't it which would be a more reasonable conclusion if she were like him, but she's not.
Note - I have read something about people projecting their inferior which doesn't yet make sense to me. That's one of the reasons for posting this lot.
I think it's like I as an INTP would not project my thoughts onto others but would project my values. Hence I can understand why people think differently to me but when they behave according to different values, that promotes a much stronger reaction.
Anyhow, please do tell me what you think. Discuss and stuff.
Thanks for reading this far, you poor bored wretch.. I shall now tell you something that will make this all worth while...
I'm done writing.
Also I'd like to warn those who are feeling defensive, this stuff is mean't to cut right to the core so either get yourself feeling happier before reading on or brace for impact (if I get this right that is...).
Lastly (this is a personal bugbear), should someone find an "official" theory to encompass all this prattling, I'd like to say right now, I'm unaware of it and no I'm not going to trawl the internet to try to find out if my thinking is validated by those who are paid to think about these things.
Right, principles.
Duality -
If you are one thing then you are it's opposite simultaneously. If you are honest, then you're also a scheming deceiver.
This is not a philosophy but something I've observed after having read MacGuffin's signature way back on INTP when he quoted Walt Whitman
Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Since that point I've noted the common things like a T's feelings warping their logic or an Ss intuition assembling conspiracies. Also I've noted within people that those who value honesty are dishonest but reason why it is necessary to themselves whilst placing those who are dishonest on a list of people to heal or terminate.
Projection-
(I'm liable to get this even more wrong than duality so please bear with me)
You project your own personality onto others.
You project what you don't like about yourself onto others.
Ergo when I was just about ready to rant for ages about people blindly following what their predecessors set down as "fact" without a challenge I came to a juddering halt. What really wound me up was that I wasn't standing up for what I thought was true in everyday life. I'd nicely packaged it and placed it on someone else so I could demonise it and put them on a burning pyre.
Also when chatting to an INFP he told me that he went to someone's house and they brought him in and then went and made themselves a cup of tea. He said he'd made a point and said "It's customary to offer a guest a drink you know". It occurred to me that he was both not compensating for the fact that she's a T and probably hadn't thought about it and also treating her like she'd deliberately don't it which would be a more reasonable conclusion if she were like him, but she's not.
Note - I have read something about people projecting their inferior which doesn't yet make sense to me. That's one of the reasons for posting this lot.
I think it's like I as an INTP would not project my thoughts onto others but would project my values. Hence I can understand why people think differently to me but when they behave according to different values, that promotes a much stronger reaction.
Anyhow, please do tell me what you think. Discuss and stuff.
Thanks for reading this far, you poor bored wretch.. I shall now tell you something that will make this all worth while...
I'm done writing.