Calvin Johnson is very clearly an istj. Simple, straight to the point, and makes really fucking boring coffin sawdust music that I should've never invested a penny in.
beat happening songs seem infp to me. indian summer, cry for a shadow? dreamy and jamboree? would YOUR dad EVER be caught DEAD listening to beat happening? i know my istj dad wouldn't!
While it's on my mind, that Colin Meloy guy is istj, too. Snorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre.
i agree with the snore. the only song i ever liked by them was the crane wife 3. he seems like he could be pretty strong Si. and it feels like it might be really theatrical and performed like new pornographers but then isn't. lacks drama, feeling, intuition.
Do infjs care much about collecting old cars in general? Not at the top of most lists that I've read. If not, wouldn't it make a lot of sense for Neil Young to instead be estp?
I'm all about mixing up Superego and conflicting types.
i think introverts are more likely to be collectors than extraverts. i could be completely utterly stupidly wrong, and probably am. with that said neil is definitely an i and and f. the rest is where it breaks down for me. the way he sings, inflects, and is so infp stoic on the outside. i have the infp sense from him pretty strongly, but he could be an isfp. that's my big question right now with a lot of songwriters. aux Ne vs ter Ni. also, i am starting to think dominant Ni or Ne might just be too fucking crazy to write comprehensible songs that a large number of people will ever like.
i have no idea what you're talking about. infp is the largest category???? right now i'm trying to sort out infp vs isfp, who i think i drastically overlooked. and a lot of the infjs are just speculative, so to speak. typology is not a verifiable science and this thread needs more contributions from others to keep it in check.
OKay, so tonight's thoughts:
fiona apple (isfp)
lenny kravitz (isfp)
ben harper (isfp)
jewel (isfp)
m ward (isfp)
jason pierce (isfp)
layne staley (isfp)
joni mitchell (isfp)
mark mathersbaugh (infj)
daniel johnston (infj)
will shef (infj)
paul simon (infj)
mars volta (infj)
shannon hoon (infp)
lou barlow (infp)
bill callahan (isfp)
will oldham (isfp)
arthur russell (infp)
calvin johnson (infp? fuck.)
neko case (intp)
john zorn (intp)
prince (entp)
jonathan richman (enfj)
brian eno (infj)
a few additions with a few reasons:
brian ferry (infp)
ariel pink (intj)
bill nelson of be bop deluxe (enfj)
momus (infj)
john howard (infj)
kevin blechdom (enfp)
shirley manson (enfp) - extroverted/thinks on her feet, silly hee haw enfp giggle
gibby haynes (estp)
josh homme (infp) - lives in the middle of nowhere, prefers metaphor, attempts to maintain harmony during concerts (very weak Te can be observed in these cases)
bill fay (infp)
kurt wagner of lambchop (enfj)
alex chilton (infp)
julian cope (infp)
bruce haack (ixfp)
martin fry of abc (enfj)
david thomas (entp)
scott miller of game theory/loud family (infp)
robyn hitchcock (infp)
kevin ayers (infp)
laura nyro (infj)
matt johnson of the the (infp)
adrian belew (isfp)
jeff lynne (entp)
marshall crenshaw (infp)
madonna (estp)
gary numan (infp)
Yellow Magic Orchestra members:
haruomi hosono (infp)
yukihiro takahashi (intp)
ryuichi sakamoto (infj)
dig in
my infp friend LOVES alex chilton and robyn hitchcock.
madonna and gibby haynes as estps, yes definitely. do you associate estp with provocateur types?
ryuichi sakamoto i would like to check out... some day.
jonathan richman, you think he is dominant Fe? i don't know him that well other than the modern lovers record and his self-titled, but his songs don't have the intensity of feeling that i would expect from enfj. they are more cheeky. closer is my favorite jonathan richman song, and my own personal sex anthem.
please explain shannon hoon and lou barlow. actually shannon hoon just FEELS way more infp to me than j. sooooo much more. the songs are pretty drippy, and they don't really elucidate the context enough to make you feel like a j type would. it's not about roles it's more about what happens internally to HIM. lou barlow and j mascis both infps, hmm. that would explain why they couldn't get along at all, and then could, and then couldn't, and then could etc. will oldham as an isfp makes sense to me, he is not very writerly compared to songwriters i like (in the N sense). i'll see bonnie prince billy when they come into town, but i'm afraid i might fall asleep like an old person with diapers on trying to see a picture at the movie theatre. i'm also thinking the fiona apple infp/isfp thing is a good question. the song criminal, extraordinary machine, i see some strong intuition there. same old problem, again and again.
ps what are you talking about with superego? i've never made the leap as far as getting into that stuff and not feeling like robin williams in good will hunting.