Haha, I just wanted to be contrary. I have no idea what you are, but if you think you are an ENFP, then it is good enough for me.
what do you think I am then, ENTJ
to elaborate, not all NFs are depressed poet, reclusive romantics. ENFPs have teritary Te that can be very assertive and masculine when well developed (and it helps them get the ladies of course )
Hopefully it helps them too
I nominate this for the most ill-informed, 'typology'-infested bullshit comment of the month.when I developed Te all of a sudden it was like "sweet, I can stand up for myself now and actually know what to say" (before I would just get frustrated but with no clue of what to say or do)
masculinity is like religion a societal phaenomenom. It was created to calm people who had to work unfair jobs like steel workers, they all were clouded behind the wall of masculinity so they had no chance to ever rethink their existence. If there is such a thing like masculinity, it is defined by completly different values than television tells us. And it has a huge intersection with what would be feminity, which in essence would revolve around mutual care.
I find the whole op trivial; sensitivity being expressed when you read a sad book ? Well if thats the crown of sensitivity then I am the horse whisperer
I nominate this for the most ill-informed, 'typology'-infested bullshit comment of the month.
Can you elaborate on this?
What 'mutual care'? for whom? Masculinity is an aspect of economics? Is that what you're implying with the 'steel worker' allusion?
This I don't understand for three reasons:I don't think most male NFs resent the so-called "feminine" aspects of their personality. They resent the fact that women aren't attracted to them because of it.
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Well if you dont understand what I mean with 'mutual care' when I speak about the two gender aspects, you wouldnt understand if I'd elaborate further
This I don't understand for three reasons:
Being an ENTJ female, I don't resent men for having their preferences and don't "blame" their reasoning on myself being an NT woman, although that's quite possible but is kind of moot to me. Of the ones who aren't attracted, they have their right to feel that way since attraction isn't something people can control. Quite frankly, the ones who aren't attracted, I don't recall being attracted to and have no interest in being considered universally attractive. As an individual, I exist as me.
- It's assuming that women aren't attracted for what NF males perceive as "feminine" aspects of their personalities.
- It also resonates with a sense of need to be viewed as universally attractive.
- It also takes the perspective of being a victim.
No. the problem is that you can't speak English very well. lack of clarity is not a proxy for sophistication.
Mask, can you honestly say the bolded with a straight face? As well, it continues to take a victim's stance where none of us are victims. We're individuals having traits that attract some and turn off others.There seems to be a sense of misogyny that overshadows both genders. A woman who is considered to have a "masculine" personality, whatever that may be: vocal, authoritative, take-charge attitude, will probably be regarded as more attractive than a man who is considered feminine: sensitive, cautious, quiet-natured. Again, I don't think those qualities define either gender, but they seem to be stereotypes that are often reiterated in society, blatantly or subtly, by both genders..
Mask, can you honestly say the bolded with a straight face? As well, it continues to take a victim's stance where none of us are victims. We're individuals having traits that attract some and turn off others.
Why are you avoiding the victim aspect? As adults, none of us are victims if we're willing to view attraction in realistic terms.Yeah, I honestly can. I wouldn't have said it otherwise.
Why are you avoiding the victim aspect? As adults, none of us are victims if we're willing to view attraction in realistic terms.
Yeah, I honestly can. I wouldn't have said it otherwise.