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Wow this is so far off.
I had an ISFP girlfriend for 3 years in college. The description fit her pretty well.
Wow this is so far off.
I had an ISFP girlfriend for 3 years in college. The description fit her pretty well.
Maybe she was a different enneatype and/or ISFp in socionics? I think the social 9's and the SEI's may better fit this description.
Generally people don't perceive me as domineering, either. Unless I've had a bit to drink, in which case maybe.This particular description does say perceived as domineering, which is different than saying they are domineering.
Generally people don't perceive me as domineering, either. Unless I've had a bit to drink, in which case maybe.
I was actually talking to someone else on the forum about this. More specifically, how*runs to look at dictionary* Would you say that "decisive" is a word that would describe you (it was used in the description)? I wonder if some people perceive decisiveness as domineering? Or perhaps it comes back to that dictionary definition and some people are more literal than others? The author of the descriptions might unconsciously inject some personal bias into them, including word choice.
Speaking only for myself; I don't think of an introvert as needing to recharge due to being psychologically drained but rather requiring a level of inactivity to discharge some of the excess energy (environmental stimuli) & process sensory overload which caused the mental fatigue.Here comes the stereotypes again. I don't get this whole retreating thing to re-gather or recharge for introverts. It's like introverts are made out of cell phone battery or something.
I find that I need a few drinks to dull my mind during extended socializing or else sensory intake overload (over stimulation) builds to the point that I feel myself becoming noticeably agitated.If I ask for space, it's not because I'm suffocating or needing my introverted room to reflect, it's usually due from getting pissed off by the offender.
Maybe assertive would be a better term.Generally people don't perceive me as domineering, either. Unless I've had a bit to drink, in which case maybe.
Agreed.Maybe assertive would be a better term.
Maybe assertive would be a better term.
Agreed.
Yes definitely.So, would it be safe to say that we should all try to be more aware of our own biases and choose our descriptive words more mindfully?
Let's say for instance, I hang out with a friend that's very talkative and extroverted for about 12 hours straight, listening to their problems and other various things that might be burdensome for some folks. This scenario has never stopped me from doing the same thing again the next day forth. However, if that same friend made some unwarranted personal attack, let's just say, if things won't get resolved in a certain amount of time, I won't be seeing him or her for quite some time until I can fully evaluate what went wrong. I'm not quite sure if I can say this is a recharge or discharge thing. I'm more inclined to call it, turning the other cheek.Maybe your getting pissed off isn't necessarily due to the individual in your space but rather a result of feeling overloaded.
So, would it be safe to say that we should all try to be more aware of our own biases and choose our descriptive words more mindfully?
Not to shut down your, or anyone else's, Feeling functions, but since we're talking about type descriptions, authenticity MUST take a backseat to accuracy. If your "natural voice" is going to lead a large group of people towards typism and stereotyping if you don't keep it a bit in check, then you are obligated -- IMO -- to keep it in check.I'm going to play devil's advocate and bring up that some people would argue that my statement was too Fe, too directive, and too constraining to their natural voice. And I can see how that's true, because Fe is my natural voice and being directive and diplomatic is what Fe does. Sometimes well; sometimes badly. Is there a way to bridge that gap between being mindful and being authentic? Or does the best we can do end up being a sort of tug-of-war between the two?
(Maybe I should have this split off into its own thread, since it's getting off-topic?)
Not to shut down your, or anyone else's, Feeling functions, but since we're talking about type descriptions, authenticity MUST take a backseat to accuracy. If your "natural voice" is going to lead a large group of people towards typism and stereotyping if you don't keep it a bit in check, then you are obligated -- IMO -- to keep it in check.
I know for a fact that I just sounded very directive, but at the same time, your personal voice, stylistically, should be able to coexist with factual accuracy. So this shouldn't be a problem for anyone who wants to write a type description.
So, would it be safe to say that we should all try to be more aware of our own biases and choose our descriptive words more mindfully?
I'm trying to better myself but nobody's perfect.
I couldn't do 12 hours of uninterrupted hanging out under those circumstances, my mind would fuzz out into an autopilot mode & I'd keep looking at the door for an exit.Let's say for instance, I hang out with a friend that's very talkative and extroverted for about 12 hours straight, listening to their problems and other various things that might be burdensome for some folks. This scenario has never stopped me from doing the same thing again the next day forth. However, if that same friend made some unwarranted personal attack, let's just say, if things won't get resolved in a certain amount of time, I won't be seeing him or her for quite some time until I can fully evaluate what went wrong. I'm not quite sure if I can say this is a recharge or discharge thing. I'm more inclined to call it, turning the other cheek.
That's how I feel when I'm getting overloaded, as though there's too much intake & I need to process it or I'll begin feeling agitated. I don't imply that all introvert types are the same & it sounds as though you're (your type) more resilient to becoming overloaded. Maybe some types get drained & others get overloaded IDK.Although, I never thought about the theory of discharging instead of recharging.