Betty Blue
Let me count the ways
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I really don't feel comfortable making/taking the desicion of describing what may or may not be healthy or unhealthy.
what, i wonder, is the difference between someone with well-developed aux and underdeveloped dom, and their I/E counterpart?
take, for example, an ENFP with very well-developed aux Fi and underdeveloped dom Ne, and an INFP (dom Fi aux Ne):
i assume it would end up being something like, in the ENFP, instead of Fi helping and guiding Ne, Fi would end up confining Ne. the functional "supportive parent" turning into the overprotective parent. it could make them seem "introverted" but really less introverted and more reclusive.
switching that, for the INFP, well-developed Ne and underdeveloped Fi could lead to Ne pushing Fi every which way and not giving it the chance to stabilize and refine. it could make them seem "extraverted", but really more credulous than extraverted.
I guess I tend to tie 'unhealthy' to anything psychologically that resides totally outside of mbti (but due to the nature of the psychological aspect, it of course could easily influence how the cog. functions play out - if we must tie it back to mbti/type stuff)
So, that would be - depression, anxiety, defensive/coping techniques, anger issues, obsessive behaviors or thoughts, narcissism, addiction, avoidance, fear, codependency, and the like..... with this, tends to either keep one in a 'holding pattern', creates some element of denial or really off-kilter/unbalanced relationships or Life imbalances, harms self/others, or prevents the person from being able to hold lasting, beneficial relationships with others or make headway in ones own life.
Basically, every human being is going to be 'unhealthy' at one or more points in their lives.
These words are part of our forum meme: Healthy/Unhealthy
I guess I tend to tie 'unhealthy' to anything psychologically that resides totally outside of mbti
From what I have read, MBTI is meant to describe healthy individuals (of all types).
I thought about it myself too already, so I am happy you made the thread. I noticed too that the worths healthy / unhealthy are used very loosely here. I had the impression people use it on everyone who has any kind of problems in their life, but it has some effect that it sounds like that person is not really likeable because of it and I don't know how fair that is. But well, maybe it is just me who perceives it like that.
So, that would be - depression, anxiety, defensive/coping techniques, anger issues, obsessive behaviors or thoughts, narcissism, addiction, avoidance, fear, codependency, and the like......
I really want this thread to discuss how it's used in MBTI terms, and in the sphere of OUR forum. As a cultural phenomenon.
Unfortunately, although I don't have stats to back it up, the general trend in this forum is to throw these words around much more frequently than we're correctly ascribing mental disorders and/or psychoanalysis through the net.
From what I have read, MBTI is meant to describe healthy individuals (of all types). It does not account for mental illness or other pathologies (yes, a loaded term which I will not take the time to define). I would assume that an unhealthy XXXX is someone whose fundamental type is overlaid with one or more of these issues: depression, bipolar, insecurities, history of abuse/trauma, etc.
Another way of looking at it: healthy types use their functions, rather than being used or controlled by them.
I see unhealthy as someone who has significant emotional problems which affect their thought process so that they can't be considered a reliable reflection of their type. I'm not sure if these people should be typed, but usually some part of their personality is recognizable as a type. In any case, they aren't the poster child for XXXX type.
I tend to see it as more of a scale.....which is why a generally healthy person can sometimes exhibit unhealthy behavior or attitudes.
I think it's interesting to consider how certain types tend to be unhealthy. There seem to be patterns in how people disintegrate.
Since I'm far from an expert on this, I use the term casually. Yes, I use it to avoid offending people, but also because I truly do not see that person as representative of a whole type, but possibly how that type may tend to "go bad".
More & more, I appreciate that MBTI focuses on the "normal" and "healthy" types. It emphasizes that differences in personalities is a positive thing, instead of focusing on the possible negative flaws which reinforce unfair bias against certain types.
I really don't feel comfortable making/taking the desicion of describing what may or may not be healthy or unhealthy.
Same here.
Unless you're some sort of professional dealing with an actual client/patient, then being comfortable with it = serious assholery, in my opinion.