Agent Washington
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Especially looking for answers from SLI and ILU, because i'm trying to figure out how this works.
According to what I've seen, Hidden Agenda for SLI and ILI is Fi, which is described as "to love". Unfortunately, I haven't found much info on this. I suspect the INTJs that I know, who COULD be ILIs, actually do seem to have this as an agenda. (I'm not 100% sure about what I am in socionics.)
Here is the list for hidden agenda. It's the 7th function.
ENTp, ESTp => to be loved
INTj, INFj => to be healthy
ESFj, ESTj => to be perfect
ISFp, INFp => to understand
ENFj, ENTj => to be wealthy
ISTj, ISFj => to believe
ESFp, ENFp => to know
INTp, ISTp => to love
This is the description:
The tentative ILIs I've seen are incredibly affectionate to their pets in particular, I assume because pets aren't complicated to love, and it's an outlet for that.
Which leads me to the PoLR function, which in ILIs and SLIs are Fe. It's the 4th function in socionics. Fe PoLR is described as being inexpressive, direct, no concern for group feelings/ethics and other Fe concerns. Which I think would necessarily contradict, to some extent, the Fi Hidden Agenda, which is to love.
On a theoretical basis, it feels like the quality in a desired object (in Lacanian terms, the objet petit a), and PoLR seems to contradict, or at least hinder, in engaging said object, thereby creating a state of constant unfulfilment, at least in the subconscious (?).
...Thoughts?
What are your experiences with HA and PoLR functions?
According to what I've seen, Hidden Agenda for SLI and ILI is Fi, which is described as "to love". Unfortunately, I haven't found much info on this. I suspect the INTJs that I know, who COULD be ILIs, actually do seem to have this as an agenda. (I'm not 100% sure about what I am in socionics.)
Here is the list for hidden agenda. It's the 7th function.
ENTp, ESTp => to be loved
INTj, INFj => to be healthy
ESFj, ESTj => to be perfect
ISFp, INFp => to understand
ENFj, ENTj => to be wealthy
ISTj, ISFj => to believe
ESFp, ENFp => to know
INTp, ISTp => to love
This is the description:
Type and the hidden agenda by Sergei Ganin
Every person has a hidden agenda. This agenda often governs one's intentions and behaviour. People are often unaware of its origin, but can always feel its significance. Some people are more affected by it than other people. Every type requires an optimal condition in which it can function properly. If such condition does not exist, a person will normally attempt to create it. However, due to the nature of the hidden agenda, if and when the optimal condition is reached, the person will occasionally put themselves in a situation where the stability of this condition is threatened.
The tentative ILIs I've seen are incredibly affectionate to their pets in particular, I assume because pets aren't complicated to love, and it's an outlet for that.
Which leads me to the PoLR function, which in ILIs and SLIs are Fe. It's the 4th function in socionics. Fe PoLR is described as being inexpressive, direct, no concern for group feelings/ethics and other Fe concerns. Which I think would necessarily contradict, to some extent, the Fi Hidden Agenda, which is to love.
On a theoretical basis, it feels like the quality in a desired object (in Lacanian terms, the objet petit a), and PoLR seems to contradict, or at least hinder, in engaging said object, thereby creating a state of constant unfulfilment, at least in the subconscious (?).
...Thoughts?
What are your experiences with HA and PoLR functions?