ShadowPage
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And do you think it wise for me to try figuring out my MBTI and Enneagram at the same time?
I didn't know anything about the Enneagram before four days ago, and because it's so new, I got really into it. I was more-than-a-little energetically trying to see if I could work out my number without having to go through all nine of them. Since it's supposedly more like a way for people to work out what defense mechanisms they have developed to make their ways through life, I thought that that might simplify things a little. It didn't. Because I'm mostly sure that I've adopted an E9 perspective- alternately, I could be E6. On the four-letter type side, I still think that I largely operate with Feeling and Sensation, but that accounts for four types that split really obviously in terms of orientation. I really don't even understand Si, and I'm not exactly socially comfortable enough to feel comfortable claiming dominant/auxiliary Fe.
(Also, is there any way that I can specify that I'm talking about my type in terms of cognitive functions rather than the dichotomy typing style? Because Jungian Cognitive Functions is a lot to type repetitively.)
Here's some intel on Me (that will never stop feeling weird):
I've gotten better at it, but I'm still kind of bad at asking for help. I can think of a good number of occasions upon which I could have asked for help to do something (quicker, more easily, or maybe even avoid having had to do it at all), but I didn't. It doesn't even occur to me to ask sometimes. I've only recently been reminding myself that I can ask for help *before* I am at the end of my rope.
I kind of belatedly realized that I am NOT a planner. I can troubleshoot, I can come up with quick lists and organizational breakdowns of things as needed on the fly, but I am otherwise pretty random about stuff. Sure, part of it is that I'm kind of young, but then I think about how as soon as I know that something doesn't need my immediate attention, I will just pretend it's not an issue until I have to deal with it. At any given time, I probably have at least three loose ends I could be tying up. But I probably won't right away. I think that I have that weird backwards optimism that I'll still be able to work it out. It's funny because I'm not optimistic in the more typical "look on the bright side" way, but hoping to still be able to make magic even after a ton of procrastinating is probably optimism too, eh?
I have a weird relationship to my own energy levels. On the one hand, I can be really hyped up about things when I'm on my own, but when I'm around people, I am just way more subdued. Not even on purpose, I just am. And after a while of being out and about (especially at parties around people I don't know), I kind of wilt. So... I actively avoid socializing a lot of the time. I like to make friends and I like to get along with people, but at the same time, I find the idea of having to meet new people a little stressful.
I am pretty private. I don't like to share too much of myself with people too soon or too often. Of course, this makes it really hard for me to talk about stuff with people I meet and start to get along with, even if I do want to connect with them. I get really awkward about sharing myself.
I don't feel right debating people. I get too heated. Even if I know a respectable amount on a topic, I know that I can't get into an argument and keep it together because I'll get emotional. I love to watch other people debate and argue, though. It's a great opportunity to learn stuff, too, but I just admire people who are able to keep it together when faced with someone decrying something important to them. In the same vein, I avoid sharing my opinions aloud with others because more often than not, I have emotional or-not well thought out responses to things and I know better than to just blurt things out if I can't reasonably defend them.
I am somewhat intense about time. I hate being late for stuff. That said I will procrastinate for as long as I can before I have to leave for something to get there on time. I don't care if other people are late to something, but if they make me late, I get angry.
I'm impatient. I just don't want other people to know that I am, so I try not to show it. But I sometimes have a really hard time waiting to do things when I really want to.
It's usually my instinct to shy away from strangers, even when I find myself looking them in the eye so as to smile at them when walking past. The funny thing is, I am able to be friendlier after a while, even when I still feel really awkward and shy on the inside. I stay alert when around people but hope that nobody calls for my attention. I would prefer to spend time thinking about whatever random thought comes to mind than to strike up conversation, even though I still want to be friendly. (I don't get it, either.)
I jump to conclusions quickly, but I am also very willing to change my mind with new information. As a result, I change my mind rapidly and have a hell of a time coming down definitively on a lot of things.
At times I feel like I need to challenge flat statements I read or hear, but I rarely ever do so outwardly. Rather, I just think about a way to invalidate or contest the point and then continue whatever I was doing.
I have a competitive streak. There's good fun in playing something that I've got some skill in- especially against people I might expect to be better than me! However, I dislike it when people take competition as an excuse to be mean to the other team/s. I don't mind talking myself up, but I'm not really interested in talking other people down.
I tend to let people talk over me a lot. It's not that I feel subordinate to other people or anything, I just usually don't know if I want to say something, so I kind of just let people who are more expressive get their words out there. It really gets on my nerves when I do have something to say and I can't get a word in, though. Those are the times when I realize I care more about seeming polite than just saying what I have to say. I'm working on it, because it really does get on my nerves.
I don't like telling other people what to do. In times past I have taken on a leader role because I had knowledge about the situation at hand, but it's not something I strive for. I usually would rather be on my own- autonomous, but willing to help if asked.
In most situations with people, I put myself into a sort of background amongst the group, but I am pretty bombastic when I am actually comfortable where I am. The thing is, I'm rarely feel comfortable enough around other people. So I am most lively and energetic when I am alone. In the same token, I don't want to be controlled, scrutinized, monitored, or anything like that, so I prefer to be alone when I need to express myself.
I really hope that's a good overview. Like I mentioned before, I have an idea that I'm either E9 or E6 and ISFx (I really don't know where I come down on those functions, tbh), but I could use some impartial judgement!
I didn't know anything about the Enneagram before four days ago, and because it's so new, I got really into it. I was more-than-a-little energetically trying to see if I could work out my number without having to go through all nine of them. Since it's supposedly more like a way for people to work out what defense mechanisms they have developed to make their ways through life, I thought that that might simplify things a little. It didn't. Because I'm mostly sure that I've adopted an E9 perspective- alternately, I could be E6. On the four-letter type side, I still think that I largely operate with Feeling and Sensation, but that accounts for four types that split really obviously in terms of orientation. I really don't even understand Si, and I'm not exactly socially comfortable enough to feel comfortable claiming dominant/auxiliary Fe.
(Also, is there any way that I can specify that I'm talking about my type in terms of cognitive functions rather than the dichotomy typing style? Because Jungian Cognitive Functions is a lot to type repetitively.)
Here's some intel on Me (that will never stop feeling weird):
I've gotten better at it, but I'm still kind of bad at asking for help. I can think of a good number of occasions upon which I could have asked for help to do something (quicker, more easily, or maybe even avoid having had to do it at all), but I didn't. It doesn't even occur to me to ask sometimes. I've only recently been reminding myself that I can ask for help *before* I am at the end of my rope.
I kind of belatedly realized that I am NOT a planner. I can troubleshoot, I can come up with quick lists and organizational breakdowns of things as needed on the fly, but I am otherwise pretty random about stuff. Sure, part of it is that I'm kind of young, but then I think about how as soon as I know that something doesn't need my immediate attention, I will just pretend it's not an issue until I have to deal with it. At any given time, I probably have at least three loose ends I could be tying up. But I probably won't right away. I think that I have that weird backwards optimism that I'll still be able to work it out. It's funny because I'm not optimistic in the more typical "look on the bright side" way, but hoping to still be able to make magic even after a ton of procrastinating is probably optimism too, eh?
I have a weird relationship to my own energy levels. On the one hand, I can be really hyped up about things when I'm on my own, but when I'm around people, I am just way more subdued. Not even on purpose, I just am. And after a while of being out and about (especially at parties around people I don't know), I kind of wilt. So... I actively avoid socializing a lot of the time. I like to make friends and I like to get along with people, but at the same time, I find the idea of having to meet new people a little stressful.
I am pretty private. I don't like to share too much of myself with people too soon or too often. Of course, this makes it really hard for me to talk about stuff with people I meet and start to get along with, even if I do want to connect with them. I get really awkward about sharing myself.
I don't feel right debating people. I get too heated. Even if I know a respectable amount on a topic, I know that I can't get into an argument and keep it together because I'll get emotional. I love to watch other people debate and argue, though. It's a great opportunity to learn stuff, too, but I just admire people who are able to keep it together when faced with someone decrying something important to them. In the same vein, I avoid sharing my opinions aloud with others because more often than not, I have emotional or-not well thought out responses to things and I know better than to just blurt things out if I can't reasonably defend them.
I am somewhat intense about time. I hate being late for stuff. That said I will procrastinate for as long as I can before I have to leave for something to get there on time. I don't care if other people are late to something, but if they make me late, I get angry.
I'm impatient. I just don't want other people to know that I am, so I try not to show it. But I sometimes have a really hard time waiting to do things when I really want to.
It's usually my instinct to shy away from strangers, even when I find myself looking them in the eye so as to smile at them when walking past. The funny thing is, I am able to be friendlier after a while, even when I still feel really awkward and shy on the inside. I stay alert when around people but hope that nobody calls for my attention. I would prefer to spend time thinking about whatever random thought comes to mind than to strike up conversation, even though I still want to be friendly. (I don't get it, either.)
I jump to conclusions quickly, but I am also very willing to change my mind with new information. As a result, I change my mind rapidly and have a hell of a time coming down definitively on a lot of things.
At times I feel like I need to challenge flat statements I read or hear, but I rarely ever do so outwardly. Rather, I just think about a way to invalidate or contest the point and then continue whatever I was doing.
I have a competitive streak. There's good fun in playing something that I've got some skill in- especially against people I might expect to be better than me! However, I dislike it when people take competition as an excuse to be mean to the other team/s. I don't mind talking myself up, but I'm not really interested in talking other people down.
I tend to let people talk over me a lot. It's not that I feel subordinate to other people or anything, I just usually don't know if I want to say something, so I kind of just let people who are more expressive get their words out there. It really gets on my nerves when I do have something to say and I can't get a word in, though. Those are the times when I realize I care more about seeming polite than just saying what I have to say. I'm working on it, because it really does get on my nerves.
I don't like telling other people what to do. In times past I have taken on a leader role because I had knowledge about the situation at hand, but it's not something I strive for. I usually would rather be on my own- autonomous, but willing to help if asked.
In most situations with people, I put myself into a sort of background amongst the group, but I am pretty bombastic when I am actually comfortable where I am. The thing is, I'm rarely feel comfortable enough around other people. So I am most lively and energetic when I am alone. In the same token, I don't want to be controlled, scrutinized, monitored, or anything like that, so I prefer to be alone when I need to express myself.
I really hope that's a good overview. Like I mentioned before, I have an idea that I'm either E9 or E6 and ISFx (I really don't know where I come down on those functions, tbh), but I could use some impartial judgement!