BlackCat
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- sx/sp
well if you say so then there's nothing left to discuss, o mighty cat
I just presented a rational, rather extensive and evidence-backed argument for him being ESTP. If you have an actual justification for him not being so, feel free to present it. God knows I love a challenge.
Well okay.
He's an impulsive risk-taker. He's heavily interested and skilled in physical activity, as shown by his love of quidditch and skill in Defense Against the Dark Arts.
The only time Harry really took risks was when he was doing what felt right to do; or what aligned with his values to do. SFPs act on their values; that's one of the most basic parts of Fi and Se being together. They do the right thing to do in any given situation based on their own moral compass.
Many other non SP students were good at Quidditch and good in their classes. You seem to be thinking of type in terms of temperament and not personality.
He can be very clear-headed and logical about these sorts of things (STP-inclined activities) that interest him. He tends to become overtly emotional only when his life or the life of one of his friends is threatened.
Anyone can be clear headed and logical about things... and SFP males often mistake themselves for T types because their SP concreteness makes them appear to be a T, because they do what's realistic. There's a difference between being concrete/realistic and being Ti.
It seems to be expected in society for males to be less emotional. That's how it goes... a lot of the F males that I know don't really get overly emotional only in really bad times. Then again a lot of F males aren't like that. What I'm trying to say is, you can't really say that emotional = F and coolheaded = T.
Hermoine is an ISTJ (you even said it yourself), yet she's one of the more emotional characters. She seems to be the one who's the most likely to lose their cool in the story.
As for E vs I... Harry greatly enjoys the company of other people. He likes hanging out not only with Ron and Hermione, but with the Twins, Neville, Luna, his Quiddich team, and essentially anyone else who's interested in his company. He retreats from the crowd only when he's suffered deep emotional trauma, and even then seeks emotional support from Ron and Hermione (Especially Ron). Notice, for example, that in book 4 Harry felt very lonely, beleaguered and sad, because he'd lost Ron as a friend.
Again, the way you seem to approach type is in terms of temperament and not really personality. None of these things really point to E or I; they have to do with other variables that MBTI doesn't cover.
But I would argue that Harry just isn't an E__P. He isn't always talking, he's not really energetic at all. Those are typical traits associated with E__Ps... and he just isn't like that. I can't think of any more off the top of my head... but I just don't understand how you could think he's an E__P.
Have you read any of the reasoning in this thread or other Harry Potter threads? There is a ton of reasoning for him being an ISFP that might interest you. Harry just seems like the archetypical ISFP fantasy hero. See this list for some examples- http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/sp-arthouse/29738-70-famous-isfps.html