Ilah
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I do think that my T is dominant and my N is secondary. However I think my N is much weaker that it should be for being my secondary. It is interesting that the ways for INTP and INTJ to develope their N is very different.
It is difficult for me to talk to people about things that are N. It seems like most of it is beyond words. Most people don't understand and I am not sure if it is because I don't explain it well or because the concepts are not something people can deal with. Also because of past bad experiences I get concerned that people will try to talk me out of decisions based on N because they are not "logical" or I can't give a good explanation.
I suppose part of my reason for joining was to talk with others about some of my N things.
It is my understanding that in healthy NTs, N and T work together. However, in myself it often seems like they are sometimes at odds. Sometimes things I intuit can be backed up by logic and I am comfortable with that. Sometimes things can be decided just by logic and I am comfortable with that. Sometimes things are decided just by intuition and there is no logical basis to them. Those are the type of thing I want to feel more comfortable with. Also I would like to try to include my N on some of the decisions made through logic alone.
Regarding another post about whether N was always right. I would say no. I am strong with T and sometimes things that seemed very logical turned out to be not true or not the right choice for me, i.e. my T was wrong. I am sure people strong in F had times where their feelings proved to be wrong. So no trait is always right.
Ilah
It is difficult for me to talk to people about things that are N. It seems like most of it is beyond words. Most people don't understand and I am not sure if it is because I don't explain it well or because the concepts are not something people can deal with. Also because of past bad experiences I get concerned that people will try to talk me out of decisions based on N because they are not "logical" or I can't give a good explanation.
I suppose part of my reason for joining was to talk with others about some of my N things.
It is my understanding that in healthy NTs, N and T work together. However, in myself it often seems like they are sometimes at odds. Sometimes things I intuit can be backed up by logic and I am comfortable with that. Sometimes things can be decided just by logic and I am comfortable with that. Sometimes things are decided just by intuition and there is no logical basis to them. Those are the type of thing I want to feel more comfortable with. Also I would like to try to include my N on some of the decisions made through logic alone.
If you're really INTP then Ti would be the dominant. With others though you'd express Ne--ideas that might seem like brainstorming for those listening. Usually, it works for Ti's to generate those ideas in conversation with someone they consider a good sounding board and perhaps talk through criteria for the decision as well. Then, alone, the Ti would compare the ideas to internal principles, considering precedents, goals, and consistency with other aspects of life. Gathering more data or taking the time to theorize usually builds confidence.
INTJs, with Ni as the dominant, would take a whole different approach to improving their facility with Ni--and it might take a bit of a thick skin. The best gut feelings would come from time alone. Then they might need to work on Te with a trusted other (someone who will encourage instead of critiquing too quickly) to discern the merit of the choice.
As an INFJ, the older I get, the less I like acting solo even though I've had success trusting my Ni. There's a confidence level and wisdom that comes from talking through a scheme with someone else. Sometimes the basics stay the same but I gain insights into what else I should consider, steps that increase the odds of success, how I might garner more support (even monetarily) and so on.
Regarding another post about whether N was always right. I would say no. I am strong with T and sometimes things that seemed very logical turned out to be not true or not the right choice for me, i.e. my T was wrong. I am sure people strong in F had times where their feelings proved to be wrong. So no trait is always right.
Ilah