I recently had a YouTube argument (yeah, I occasionally get into those) where the topic, in a vague way, was about morality. Perhaps you can derive some conclusions from the way I argue. Hopefully, you watch football and know what the context of the argument is, although I would say that it's easy to understand. Here's a link to assist you, anyway.
http://youtu.be/ZgHhYgQnCPg
http://youtu.be/mKmcxZtFvQ4
5:30
A - Anyone who says they wouldn't of done this for their country to get into the next round is an idiot. What was he suppose to do stand there and let it pass him and his country gets knocked out? It was a sacrifice any smart player would make for his team and country.
B - Nah, Suarez is a cunt and is the scummiest cunt on Earth. I wouldn't of handballed it, because I actually have some respect for the rules.
Me - Frankly, that's stupid. Your country is more important than some rules. Especially if you're representing your country in an international competition.
Me - The end justifies the means. And anyway, Suarez wasn't cheating, by definition. He did get his comeuppance for breaking the rule. I don't know about how you people prioritize stuff but in my opinion, ensuring your country's progression to the next stage is more important than preserving your moral integrity. The latter just sounds selfish. So, you would throw away a chance to propel your country towards glory in a global competition only to protect your character? Football is about teams, not individuals. I don't know what was going through Suarez's mind but I think he made a heroic sacrifice (okay, that's an exaggeration but hey, it is a perspective). Besides, Ghana is at fault here. They should have capitalized on the penalty, both the foul one and the shootout.
B - No. Suarez is a disgrace, and Uruguay along with Suarez should be ashamed.
Me - I think your hatred (which seems subjective) for Suarez is clouding your judgment. You essentially managed to overlook the entire point of my comment. Congratulations.
B - No, I actually have morales and self respect, and would never do something like Suarez done just for my country!
Me - Well, that's sad. Your morals (not morales, by the way) just knocked your team out of the world cup. Unfortunately, football is not about the individual. You are a part of a group, a group of different people with different ideologies. If you think you're above that just because you follow some personal code of ethics, you don't need to participate in international team sports and jeopardize your team. Even if you're in it just for your own enjoyment or success, you are required to sacrifice your individuality for the sake of your team, and metaphorically, your country. Otherwise, you're no different from that guy in high school who only played for his own glory and never bothered to pass the ball to anyone else or that other guy who whined after the match because no one would pass the ball to him when he would do nothing other stand near the opponent's goal. I'm not even patriotic. As a matter of fact, I have a considerable amount of hatred for my own country. It's just about priorities. When you enter the field, you're playing for something bigger than you, and I'm not talking about your ego. Sure, you can call disguise it by calling it your sense of self-respect.
http://youtu.be/E7yY2jvGhQA. Another one.
A - Germany cheated! Cocksuckers. The goalkeeper had a list hidden in his sock so he knew which way the players were going to shoot!
Me - Look, let me explain the situation with an example that you will certainly relate to. A surprise test for a topic that you hate and know nothing about is to be conducted tomorrow, and you and your hypothetical friend are distressed but determined not to flunk the test. While your lazy friend does not study at all and consults his neighbor's sheet during the test, you research studiously on the topic the night before and ace the test. This is what Germany did.
A - Get a life, boyo. YOU should learn the difference between cheating and strategy. Strategy means scouting them but not having a list in your sock while you are playing with them. That is called cheating, dumbass.
Me - It would have been cheating if Lehmann (the goalkeeper) was consulting the list during the game which he clearly did not, else the cameras would have caught him...
I don't know, depends on what kind of logical systems you're referring to. It has always seemed like a vague combination of words to me. But, the best way to make me understand a concept is to use metaphors, or to a lesser extent, anecdotes.