Southern Kross
Away with the fairies
- Joined
- Dec 22, 2008
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- MBTI Type
- INFP
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- 4w5
- Instinctual Variant
- so/sp
Interesting. I think you may be right. Perhaps it could be said: Fe tries to give the group what (it believes) they want and Fi tries to give the group what (it believes) they need - or is that overstating it?Would it be fair to say it's a matter of Fi valuing some 'ideal' for the group, whereas Fe will value something more practical and based on what the group wants (at least in the immediate sense, I think FJs will tend to want to refine that to an ideal on their own/in retrospect in anticipation of ‘next time’- but want to use immediate group ‘wants’ as a springboard for implementing resolution and FPs will want to dive into 'ideal' particulars right then-and-there without feeling that same pressure to have an immediate resolution to set in place). Because it's a theoretical 'ideal' existing in one or so people and not what actually exists in the social group (even if it 'theoretically' applies to more than that single person/few people), it can seem like MacGuffin described.
I can see it working this way with Ti too, and see how TJs get frustrated with it. Any extreme is going to be annoying (Je not willing to take in any of the theoretical ideal particulars at all, or Ji being die hard convinced it’s “best†when really it’s just a solipsistic tangent that’s too far removed from shared reality to be useful).
If this is right, it could explain some things. Because it shoots straight for the ideal, Fi could give out a pushy, self-righteous, "I know what is best for you" sort of vibe to Fe; and because it believes in allowing the ideal to refine/evolve/unfold naturally, Fe could exude a short-sighted, plodding, head-buried-in-the-sand sense to Fi. These are exaggerations to be sure, but are possibly revealling. In a way it could feel like Fi is attempting to force things in an unnatural and disruptive manner.
And as you said this works in a similar way with Ti-Te. So to take it further:
Fi/Ti - force the issue/ideal and let the resolution unfold
Fe/Te - force the resolution and let the issue/ideal unfold
Maybe?
Sorry, I've gone on a Ne bender here...