EcK
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Oh, you have stats. Where might those be? I didn't see a link.
You have the whole internet to yourself. Perhaps you should start looking.
Oh, you have stats. Where might those be? I didn't see a link.
I'm curious if a religious upbringing encourages a more intuitive perspective of life, rather than sensing.
You have the whole internet to yourself. Perhaps you should start looking.
That's all I needed to know. You're talkin' out of your-->
We've all heard the rumors around here, but would like to see you pull those "reliable studies" you so bragged about and present them for us.
I just love seeing people dig their own graves. It's cute.
I would rather think the golden rule "do unto to others, as you would have done onto you" encompasses the ten commandents. It doesn't negate them. Check out Matthew 7: 9-12, and Luke 6: 27-31.Not again.
Obsolete Old Testament Law that people try to follow because they misinterpret the Bible (or don't read it at all), and miss the part where it talks about how the blood of Jesus fulfilled the Law when he was crucified.
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To better understand the putative relationship between personality style and cognition, we assessed adolescents and adults on the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI)and the Kaufman Adolescent and Adult intelligence Test (KAIT). The MBTI provides scores on four indexes: Extraversion-Introversion, Sensing-Intuition, Thinking-Feeling, and Judging-Perceiving. The KAIT provides Fluid, Crystallized, and Composite Intelligence Quotients.
Participants consisted of 1,297 individuals, aged 14 to 94 years, who were tested throughout the United States during the nationwide standardization of the KAIT. It was hypothesized that individuals favoring Intuition and Thinking would be more intelligent and would favor fluid over crystallized intelligence relative to those favoring Sensing and Feeling, respectively. Several multiple analyses of variance and covariance (MANOVAs and MANCOVAs) were conducted with sex, race, KAIT IQ, and KAIT Fluid and Crystallized IQ discrepancy serving as independent variables and continuous scores on the MBTI used as dependent variables. Consistent with hypothesized relationships, people classified as Intuitive earned higher KAIT Composite IQs than those classified as Sensing.
http://www.sengifted.org/archives/a...-on-psychological-types-of-gifted-adolescentsThe high preference of gifted adolescents for intuition compared to general high school students in this study is consistent with what Myers and McCauley (1985b) wrote about the connection between the psychological type theory and academic aptitude. They stated that people showing high scores on introversion (I) and intuition (N) show greater academic aptitude than those who score high on extraversion (E) and sensing (S). While sensing types almost always fall below the mean in IQ, intuition types are mostly above the mean. Indeed, IN types with P or J usually have the top scores in the comparisons of students’ SAT, IQ, and Florida Eighth Grade Test in the manual of the MBTI. However, according to McCauley and Myers, this is not necessarily related to intelligence; rather, it is related to the match between the academic characteristics of IN types and the content of aptitude tests. When gifted adolescents are compared to general high school students according to their preference for intuition, they are more likely to enjoy solving new problems and dislike doing the same thing repeatedly. They also are conclusive, impatient, and interested in complicated situations. They might be more interested in novelty according to the type theory.
The few reliable studies available seem to positively correlate IQ to N traits. Religiousness is negatively correlated to IQ. While correlation is not causation it doesn't seem to point out to any strong link between intuitiveness and religiousness. Religious leaders can be Ns, but the following of their precepts doesn't require or encourage abstract thought as the allegories religion is based on tend to show a lack of coherence. I would expect that someone used to think in terms of abstraction would be more likely to be bothered by this and find it more difficult to end up an active religious follower.
That graph shows that "S" types have higher Iq than "N" types.
That graph shows that "S" types have higher Iq than "N" types.
leeet me guess. You had some bad experience in your life. Suffered some kind of personal anomie, loss of control over your life. You needed stuff to make sense and clang to what was available at the time: the belief in an overarching and human friendly pattern in the universe in the lack of any evidence of the supernatural.
Now both your self-esteem and ego, your whole perception of being an intelligent and meaningful adult and actor in your own life is entangled with the same religious beliefs that saved you from a further breakdown at that critical period of your life and you simply could NEVER accept anything that attacked this belief as it would destroy you.
Luckily for you the very nature of religion is that its main claim cannot be disproved even if the particulars can be shown to be at best unlikely.
As I said, adorable. *ruffles hair*
Pretty smart!I would rather think the golden rule "do unto to others, as you would have done onto you" encompasses the Ten Commandments. It doesn't negate them. Check out Matthew 7: 9-12, and Luke 6: 27-31.
Thank you for posting the chart. I may have some analysis to add later. I must brainstorm first.Well if you are REALLY asking for it. Here you go.
Study by Alan S. Kaufman
"The Relationship of the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) to IQ Level and the Fluid and Crystallized IQ Discrepancy on the Kaufman Adolescent and Adult Intelligence Test (KAIT) "
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Another one
http://www.sengifted.org/archives/a...-on-psychological-types-of-gifted-adolescents
the pdf can be found here : http://www.printfriendly.com/print/...on-psychological-types-of-gifted-adolescents#
and many more, including a study by myers. Yes the one from that thing they call the MBTI.
Religion is just filtered through one's current preferences, rather than the other way around.
I.e., we tend to understand/filter the divine based on who we already are.
No, but what it does show is that intuitives are killed off dramatically starting at age 20, after they leave the protective cocoon of their parental home.
Look at the scores more carefully, there is nearly 3 times S types than N types, still even tho N types were clearly outnumbered by S types there is only 1% difference on how many people from each group scored 110 or more. In other words about 2/3 of S types failed to get over 110 iq and over half of N types have 110 or higher iq.
Depending on the content of the Iq tests they are also favored towards intuitive style thinking.
Sort of. The participants were 1/3 N and 2/3 S (twice as many S than N). 1/2 of the Ns and 1/3 of the Ss had higher than average IQ. A little more than 1/2 of the Ss and a little less than 1/2 of the Ns had average IQ. Something like 1/5 of the S and 1/10 of the Ns had below average IQ. Of course it's not actually an average IQ level (at least for the participants), since there are twice as many people above average than below.
So not as dramatic a difference as you seem to be implying. If you randomly sample a population with IQ>110, you're equally likely to find an N or an S.