Xander
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There are quite a few, mostly of the feminist mindset, who seem drawn to those female comedians who make their career out of men's behaviour. The self same crowd I might add who scream blue murder when women are portrayed as anything less than 100% perfect in every way.And what I'm saying is it doesn't matter if you think they are pissy. I'd be shocked - shocked! - if the ones you think are pissy are held as ideal models by other women. Women in power invariably draw such criticisms.
It's almost as bad as the BNP/ anti BNP lot.
Frickin zealots.
Shoot the lot I say.
Anyhow.... Politics wise, you get a few like Ann Widdecombe. Now she might not be a looker but she's got no problems telling you that you're an ass when you are behaving like one. But she also doesn't stray into "I feel weak so I'm going to be spikey to make myself look all hard". She'll just knock you on your arse and walk on. That's power. Being all snidy and stuff is passive aggression most common in those who don't have self confidence. Hence bad role models.
AHA... just remembered the word I was searching for before.
Diva. Bad example of role model. Far too much of the princess complex will ruin anyone as it has them.
Was there supposed to be anything aside from you thinking that none are needed?I gave my view on parameters.
They have role models... if you want to be a housewife or a model or a singer or any of a large number of careers but they seem to have few for those careers which are more male centric at present and for just being themselves.How have women managed not to free-fall into nothingness absent their model prisons so far? They must be geniuses.
I'm so not starting on which way is up.Decent is in the eye of the beholder.
Famous people have larger impact on the collective conscious image of things which is what needs to be addressed to make a systematic change. It's simple manipulation of the media which is who tends to decide what is and what is not acceptable these days.I don't believe people have to resort to famous people as models. Unless fame is the goal . . .
Agreed but that also doesn't mean that the descriptions are never earned.I do believe the terms "bitter" and "cynical" are terms over-used by people who do not like the views of the purported bitter and cynical person but are impotently driven to grasp on to some wounding criticism.
Instead of ending up with a famous singer throwing a hissy if she doesn't get six white kittens as part payment you could have a singer who speaks their mind and doesn't end up feeding the already strong male image of what a female singer should be like.Who are these women?
And what model would you have suggested for them to not become the "husks" they are now? How could they have striven to make it better?
Excellent. She obviously understood where strength comes from."Do what you feel in your heart to be right - for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't." - Eleanor Roosevelt
“Women are like teabags. We don't know our true strength until we are in hot water!” - Eleanor Roosevelt