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ThatGirl
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It is about time. He was due for his nap like months ago.
macro-movement is achieved partly through steps on a smaller scale (and vice versa). if there is a goal and one wishes to accomplish while situated within a group of apathetic or incompetent individuals - one is required to change the situation through inspiration, control, vigilance, etc. the entj annoyance was mostly directed toward the assumption that this is some innate need that is applied throughout all contexts but discerning individuals, regardless of type, understand that we live in a society and as imperfect individuals, pushes are needed. certain individuals may have a natural inclination to distrust the competence or follow-through of others and engage in all sorts of pre-emptive strikes or watchful behaviors which in itself, may prompt the other parties to rebel, submit, secede, etc. i think several people were trying to illuminate this consequence and express their own irritation in personal experience of being unwilling directed. entj's are people, people are not entj's; organizational skills are a generalized talent of the "entj" archetype but the stereotype of micro-management was taken to extremes, as if entj's do this without any sense of discernment.
thatgirl, you've made a great and cogent post, once again, describing how these behaviors are necessary and sometimes less pleasant for the one effecting them than for recipients.
Only read the op and the said thread. I don't know what everyone was so pissed about. I micromanaged the shit out of my ex husband. I had a vision, he was part of it. What he did affected me and I was subject to his consequences. Ultimately I watched him desolve as a man in front of me though he complied to my will. I lost respect for him. We had very different goals (I wanted to do shit he was content just being). Eventually I realized it was my pride and not wanting to fail that kept the relationship together and cut him lose in an act of mercy.
The guy I met after him turned the tables and the same thing happened to me. I didn't care for it much.
Inevitably I learned that finding people with similar goals and motivation, equal competency levels (even if they are in different areas) would be key. As I wrote before, I now look for people I can work together with. Like my half of the Curies.
Bottom line, if I am paired with someone less capable, and it somehow affects me, I micro manage like a mother fucker.
Well said. I would only add that with the ENTJ tendency to be dominant, when they do fall into micro management positions it is probably more extreme than you would see from other types.
A lot of people seem to use forums to vent their tertiary functions, apparently.
I'm ESFP, remember? Nah, I'll be INFP this weekend.
Oh wait, no-- ENTP. Yeah, I'll try on ENTP this weekend and see if I like it.
What the hell else is there to do?
I dunno, deliver Chinese food?
I want some!
If you could only SEE what I have in my basement...