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i was thinking on control lately, as i always do - control, and the upper-hand, and general tacticianship are fascinations of mine, when i was startled by a post by that lady, ladyjaye
well this was interesting for me.
not really that it's anything new, but something about the glisten of this sentence was attractive to me.
so i'll write a little bit of stuff and anyone who wants to can post their relevant somethings.
i'll try and break it up so it doesn't get to be really long and unreadable - you guys can just scroll through to find the parts that interest you the most and write about that.
firstly,
self control vs. control of environment:
which do you prefer?
it seems to me that the parallel here yields two obvious outcomes - both the passive approach and the active approach are used to achieve or maximize the desired effect
1] maintaining self control inevitably means only reacting to what happens to you
2] controlling your environment means predicting the reactions of the constituents of your environment and acting based on the tangential possibilities
despite my usual tendency to avoid talking about "life" [which is a waste of time in my opinion, vast as it is, but that's a discussion for another time] i can't help myself.
we're required by life to employ both approaches to to get the most out of... whatever the fuck it is we're doing. that applies globally as well as personally as well as holistically as well as currently.
no control at all:
such a thing exists - i've seen people let go everything and let their unconscious take them wherever it takes them. that's sort of vague... i hate leaving it so undefined, but i want to leave that to the vagaries of my varied customers.
i will provide examples from which you the reader can mold their own interpretation.
ex: a couple dancing, but with no care for the consequences - a completely stress free dance - where they allow their impulses to control them.
they relinquish control to the conscious mind's superior; the unconscious.
a lot of people like an experience like this. it's thrilling. not knowing what's going to happen is dangerous, and as everyone who was once under the age of 25 knows, danger plus survival equals fun.''
there's a similar contrast between the topic above and this one.
on the one hand we have voluntary release of control, and we have involuntary release of control.
involuntary forfeit of control is when one has their very capacity to control rendered inviable by their physical circumstances.
each of Dexter Morgan's 'victims' being taped up on his kill-table is an example of someone who's involuntarily lost their control.
this doesn't account for everything - i mean you can control people by words sometimes, but again [for example if your brain is too fried from a drug] then your physical circumstances have taken your control from you.
the stress of control:
controlling things [at least effectively] means work. maintaining control means even more work, and planning, and keeping yourself alert to prevent leaks.
all works is stressful. that's how we know it's work.
that could be another reason for one deliberately relinquishing control - relief.
as i see it, the strong stand out as those who can handle, or ignore, or are resilient from the pressures of successful control over extended periods or extensive feats.
i don't really have anything else i want to write right now.
that lady said:he was all over the place, foaming at the mouth, and I never once felt like I was out of control.
well this was interesting for me.
not really that it's anything new, but something about the glisten of this sentence was attractive to me.
so i'll write a little bit of stuff and anyone who wants to can post their relevant somethings.
i'll try and break it up so it doesn't get to be really long and unreadable - you guys can just scroll through to find the parts that interest you the most and write about that.
firstly,
self control vs. control of environment:
which do you prefer?
it seems to me that the parallel here yields two obvious outcomes - both the passive approach and the active approach are used to achieve or maximize the desired effect
1] maintaining self control inevitably means only reacting to what happens to you
2] controlling your environment means predicting the reactions of the constituents of your environment and acting based on the tangential possibilities
despite my usual tendency to avoid talking about "life" [which is a waste of time in my opinion, vast as it is, but that's a discussion for another time] i can't help myself.
we're required by life to employ both approaches to to get the most out of... whatever the fuck it is we're doing. that applies globally as well as personally as well as holistically as well as currently.
no control at all:
such a thing exists - i've seen people let go everything and let their unconscious take them wherever it takes them. that's sort of vague... i hate leaving it so undefined, but i want to leave that to the vagaries of my varied customers.
i will provide examples from which you the reader can mold their own interpretation.
ex: a couple dancing, but with no care for the consequences - a completely stress free dance - where they allow their impulses to control them.
they relinquish control to the conscious mind's superior; the unconscious.
a lot of people like an experience like this. it's thrilling. not knowing what's going to happen is dangerous, and as everyone who was once under the age of 25 knows, danger plus survival equals fun.''
there's a similar contrast between the topic above and this one.
on the one hand we have voluntary release of control, and we have involuntary release of control.
involuntary forfeit of control is when one has their very capacity to control rendered inviable by their physical circumstances.
each of Dexter Morgan's 'victims' being taped up on his kill-table is an example of someone who's involuntarily lost their control.
this doesn't account for everything - i mean you can control people by words sometimes, but again [for example if your brain is too fried from a drug] then your physical circumstances have taken your control from you.
the stress of control:
controlling things [at least effectively] means work. maintaining control means even more work, and planning, and keeping yourself alert to prevent leaks.
all works is stressful. that's how we know it's work.
that could be another reason for one deliberately relinquishing control - relief.
as i see it, the strong stand out as those who can handle, or ignore, or are resilient from the pressures of successful control over extended periods or extensive feats.
i don't really have anything else i want to write right now.