Some people can have fun without getting off their arse ya know? They are called Ps.
I don't see the big deal...
I don't really believe in consciousness. It's an illusion. So if it doesn't exist, it can't go anywhere either.
Why would your consciousness be associated with/near your body at that point?
for that matter, what the hell is consciousness dependent upon? are neurons the only "magical" matter in the universe that can produce consciousness? Why?
What evidence for consciousness have you seen? I might see a certain 'awareness' in species like humans as a whole. But individual consciousness, I doubt that exists. It's purely mechanical. And wont change when you die, only transform to another state of energy. Split and divided to a whole ant hive, or any other thing. It's a part of the weather system.See, I'm of the opposite opinion.
The only thing that exists is consciousness, as I still have yet to see evidence for anything else's existence. Though that leads me to agnosticism, acting as though nothing else exists, as opposed to actually denying that anything else exists.
What evidence for consciousness have you seen?
Why?
I'd prefer if you tell me.So you will understand how awareness and consciousness are related.
It's clear, at least my interpretation . And I like it. Blended with my mental model, this actually provides a realisation for truth to accept difficult internal feelings that can be challenging, but necessary to accept and embrace.I think I can best express this through an example. I doubt it will be clear though.
Take me imagining a giant blue square. Some people would say, the arrangement of particles and energy in my brain is causing me to speak and act like I am seeing a giant blue square.
Now from their perspective I understand that, since they don't have my experiences of the giant blue square. But from my perspective, I am seeing a giant blue square. The giant blue square is the thing I am having direct experience of, and is the thing I can be certain, in that moment at least, that it exists. They can attempt to show me these particles and this energy, but in the end, whilst they certainly exist in some sense, I am seeing all this evidence in the same way I am seeing the giant blue square. As a conscious experience.
So, for all this evidence people have for the existence of a material world outside our consciousness, I can only see it as more conscious experience. I then don't see how logically, using only conscious experience, one can show the existence of anything but more conscious experience.
It seems futile to me, to try reaching outside of conscious experience, which encompasses everything we talk and think about, to talk about things outside of it.
Baring in mind that all science and empirical investigation functions identically, and is just as practical if we remember that it is all conscious experience we manipulate. In fact, given revelations about the world in the past 100 years, it may even function better if we remember that. Especially as more people begin investigating what consciousness is through empirical research beyond everyday experiences.
Summary: Everything I have ever witnessed is part of a conscious experience.
are neurons the only "magical" matter in the universe that can produce consciousness?
It begs the question of what exactly is consciousness. Religion will say it is a "soul" that happens to "inhabit" a body. Science seems to lean towards it just being the result of a chemical process. On one hand, I don't see how chemicals can create a conscious entity. On the other, it is true that our consciousness is very dependent on this biological organism. We cannot do anything without it, not receive information from the outside (through the senses), not even process information inside. Whenparts of the body die (amputation, etc), I imagine there is no sensation coming from that part of the neural roadmap anymore. (Contrary to some religious portrayals of a "soul" and/or "spirit" shaped just like the body, based on passages like Lazarus & the Rich man!)
So once the brain dies, it seems there would be no way to receive or process information. But then what is left? If the "immortal soul" simply "takes over" then, then you wonder why it depended so exclusively on the body now.