Simplexity
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Haha, I used to be a big stat nerd so I know that aspect pretty well.
Have you ever heard of SOSH?
I got a really good baseball stats 101 lesson there. One of the things I quickly learned was that you could get too hyper focused on stats and it was better to merge your actual baseball viewing knowledge and make inferences that would somewhat put you out on the limb. There is of couse a bunch of more in depth and detailed stats I could pull up(Sabermetrics and FIP and Isolated stats and what not), but I don't think thats necessary. That old stats saying really does ring true with baseball, If you want you can make stats say whatever the hell you want( Eric Van on SOSH).
For example I was having a discussion the other day with my friend about the rays and he was saying BJ Upton is not really a threat and the sox shouldn't be too concerned with him. I mentioned that he still had a great OBP so his approach wasn't the problem, still had speed, so maybe it was an injury or he just lost his aggresiveness but his power couldn't have evaporated. Sure enough He goes on a tear in the post season and has 4 HR's allready.
And the AL-NL comment was more along the lines that with a determined Manny and against the Wily veteran Moyer the Dodgers line up to him is more akin to an American League team. I think you're just hung up on the fact that I think Manny is too big a force but in actuality he really is that good.
The biggest point I'm trying to make is the fact that the rest of the dodgers shouldn't have too much problem with getting on base and with Manny on fire it spells a long night for him. Seriously though I don't think thats something we should really be arguing about. Moyer is a guy who deals with people on base ala Dice K but pitches out of the jams, Unlike Dice K however he can't reach back for strikeouts or go through dominating stretches.
Have you ever heard of SOSH?
I got a really good baseball stats 101 lesson there. One of the things I quickly learned was that you could get too hyper focused on stats and it was better to merge your actual baseball viewing knowledge and make inferences that would somewhat put you out on the limb. There is of couse a bunch of more in depth and detailed stats I could pull up(Sabermetrics and FIP and Isolated stats and what not), but I don't think thats necessary. That old stats saying really does ring true with baseball, If you want you can make stats say whatever the hell you want( Eric Van on SOSH).
For example I was having a discussion the other day with my friend about the rays and he was saying BJ Upton is not really a threat and the sox shouldn't be too concerned with him. I mentioned that he still had a great OBP so his approach wasn't the problem, still had speed, so maybe it was an injury or he just lost his aggresiveness but his power couldn't have evaporated. Sure enough He goes on a tear in the post season and has 4 HR's allready.
And the AL-NL comment was more along the lines that with a determined Manny and against the Wily veteran Moyer the Dodgers line up to him is more akin to an American League team. I think you're just hung up on the fact that I think Manny is too big a force but in actuality he really is that good.
The biggest point I'm trying to make is the fact that the rest of the dodgers shouldn't have too much problem with getting on base and with Manny on fire it spells a long night for him. Seriously though I don't think thats something we should really be arguing about. Moyer is a guy who deals with people on base ala Dice K but pitches out of the jams, Unlike Dice K however he can't reach back for strikeouts or go through dominating stretches.