Istbkleta
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I never get such spectacular results. Let me use your internet.
Use duckduckgo.
Google keeps you in the bubble.
I never get such spectacular results. Let me use your internet.
Agreed. I think adding function theory to emotional evaluation is mostly to avoid actually evaluating emotions.
Why is it (Ti-understanding?) antithetical to trying to understand another person? Perhaps I do not quite grasp the quality or depth of Ti-driven understanding, but I feel like it would be flattering and possibly even calming to have another person trying to understand in that manner. There is a point where you just realize not everything about humans is logical?
I am certainly Fi-driven but I also feel I relate to some of the things that poster was talking about.
Heh, hard.
Idk =\ being a girl, I'm sure your pursuits are slightly different than mine. I don't know how the typical man would react with intensity that us ENTP's can exude. I, personally, enjoy intensive feedback in the same manner I give it. Any more would probably turn me off, any less as well.
My largest concern right now is when sex will be introduced into the relationship... I'm dating so many people, but I don't know who to 'choose', or if I should even 'choose', or what...
I've hurt people in the past about my selections with no to little intent of pursuit regarding a relationship, I feel guilty for things like that five years later...
You are going to be hurt and hurt others in dating. Even if your actions during dating were with everyone's best intentions. Everyone should accept that. It's easier to handle when it happens. No surprises. No guilt.
Coming late to the party (as usual) but, Ti is about being detached. It's used very much like a device. Standing back, building a model of understanding. Construction materials courtesy of Ne. And yes, there is a point where a Ti-dom or aux realizes that everything about humans is not logical. It is a moment of horror, hopelessness, and profound confusion. It can also be a moment of clarity, change, and wonder.
I have a difficult time resisting analyzing everything I encounter. I'm convinced there is meaning, a pattern, and order in there, if I just poke, prod, and mess with it enough. Then I will "understand". I'm also old enough to know that some things cannot be understood (I can't believe I just said that!) and that it can even be a road to nowhere because it won't solve anything. There have been too many times when I was trying too hard to understand, missed everything, when I should have just experienced.
Are you being sarcastic, rude or neither?
Neither =( very appreciative, actually....
it seems everyone always takes what i say the wrong way. i wonder what's wrong with me. read my wall posts, people are always.... idk. i suck i guess.
what i mean was that there is more detail that would put my perspective into a favorable light, such as when i was pursuing sexual encounters with these females i had no intent of hurting them. i just grew... bored. and moved on. but they didn't. so to this day i feel guilty for it. but i didn't feel like going into depth. yet you still understood, without me telling, so it felt awesome.
i guess i just come across in a very sarcastic manner. i really don't know.
Ok. No worries. I'm not good at getting tone from NT's on here. One could read it a number of ways which is why I ask.
About your post: Always dilute the details of a relationship in the aftermath. They really are built to converge into simple terms. You either like them enough or you don't. People get hung up on the 'enough' part and the guilt settles there but it's all or nothing each time you date. No guilt for reaching a conclusion faster than the other person. Lol.
lol, too funny, that last sentence. yeah. another thing i need to learn to do is not stay friends with ex's. i haven't really had enough to constitute that deep of thinking, but i feel it would be for the better.
Just as a word of caution - that article seems to confuse Fi with the emotions themselves. Emotions are on a different, more primal layer, and the cognitive functions of Fi and Ti only come into play when we try to evaluate those emotions.
Consider emotions as the forest. Fi is in the middle of the forest, and can tell you minute details about the color and texture of the bark, and become hypnotized by how the leaves sway in the wind. But... it can lose perspective of the forest. Ti is outside and above the forest, and sees the forest much more clearly, but struggles with seeing the individual trees.
I think this stuff might be related more (or just as much) to inner perception than Fi. "Do I see myself with this person?" That sort of thing. Those moments when you're hanging out and suddenly see yourself from the outside.. if you don't recognize who you are in that picture, it's time to get out. Maybe the best type of relationship is one where you still recognize yourself.
I need to elaborate on this, but I probably won't.
Neither =( very appreciative, actually....
it seems everyone always takes what i say the wrong way. i wonder what's wrong with me. read my wall posts, people are always.... idk. i suck i guess.
After all, Fi is great. It’s the gooey source of real feelings, rather than polite obligations.