Seems fair.
What kind of cheap rush do you mean? Like, self-pitying masochism? Or like the satisfaction of knowing that YOURS is the RIGHT way? Or something different?
Entirely different. Think of it as an adrenaline rush gained through emotional indulgence. I find that I really connect with the present moment when I just let myself experience the full force of my emotions. I don't mean acting out on them; I just mean letting them take storm internally and reveling in the sheer FEELING of emotions.
So when I am bored or feeling stagnated, I dredge up strong emotional points for myself and sort of drown myself in them mentally. I live out the emotions in my head and get wrapped up in experiencing them as a sort of physical sensation.
Think of it like slipping into a hot bath that is so hot it's almost unbearable. But instead of getting out you continue to lie there are enjoy being on the edge of discomfort. Because the line between comfort and discomfort is so close you don't have the ability to think about anything other than the sensation itself. Your mind is entirely focused on a single, solitary experience.
That is what I enjoy about emotions.
Not sure if that gives you a better picture.
I think I consider others a lot more than most ESTJs, yeah. But I would have thought being conscientious would be a given for our type. Why don't you think you're as conscientious?
It comes after the fact.
Conscientiousness is about wishing to do what is right. Based on self-examination, I wish to do what I want first, then think about whether or not it is right afterwards.
It's not an exact science. There are definitely areas where I strongly care about doing what is right (especially in terms of personal work).
I think if there is no personal challenge/goal at odds with the moral side, I'll pick morality. But if there is some challenge, some thrill of obstacles to overcome, then I will normally default to the challenge before the moral aspect.
I guess suffice to say is I am more interested in what I can do before I am interested in whether or not what I do is right.
Mine is kind of silly and punny and dark. Also lots of Ne. Yours, at least from this thread, seems a lot more dry than mine. And abstract, in a non-Ne way.
Interesting. This is surprising, as I consider my humor very Ne. Could you elaborate a little and give an example of your humor? Perhaps name the kind of comedic films you enjoy, if any.
I think when people make their point in a very brief and concise way, with no exclamation marks or other text-based indicators, that vibes as a type of introversion, to me. Because it comes across as so incredibly subdued.
I see. But I think ESTJs tend to be concise speakers anyways (you certainly are). But maybe that ties into your comment about being more ambiverted?
Someone on the forum said, a while ago, that they could tell if someone was a 3 based on an absence of a noticeable heart fix. That's why I'm certain, in your case.
Nine or One because I haven't noticed 8-style passion from you. You're too subdued. At least, you are on the forum.
Yeah you don't seem 7 at all to me. The more of your posts I read, the more I go with 5w6 or 6w5.
That makes sense. I agree with your assessment that I wouldn't qualify as an eight or seven. I'm not quite as subdued in real life as I am on forums, but I don't fit the motivations of either of those types.
I don't know what an "absence of a noticeable heart fix" looks like, but I would agree based on what I remember about the enneagram about being a 3 heart fix.
I like Sx-doms when they know how to establish boundaries. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
Excellent point. Sx-doms who don't have boundaries are problematic. Sx-doms who learn how much energy to give and withhold are more manageable.
Yeah, same. I think you may use significantly less Ne than your average ESTJ? Or your average forumgoing ESTJ?
This is such a strange thing. I consider myself a VERY heavy Ne user for an ESTJ. To the point that I've been weighing ENFP as a type. It's very unexpected that you would say it appears I use it less than an average ESTJ (forumgoing or otherwise).
I wonder if maybe I've been confusing another cog function for Ne.