Hey ESTJ, what do you think of the following, a little piece (not so little, longish, lol) I wrote to start getting my mind wired into MBTI analysis
Minutes of a meeting
estj and intj buy complex computer program for internal office use, on trial on the recommendation of an expert consultant
estj, sets up a webex meeting, opens it up and starts configuring it. its the opposite of intuitive, not even sure what the menus do and there are humungous options.
intj - give me a couple of days we will re schedule this meeting
estj - hang on, just watch this, i am pretty sure this is going to do that
after a few minutes,
estj - why isn't it doing that? I think its a bug, don't you? I have used similar things, it should let us do this.
intj - we should define what we want to do with this exactly and have a written list of that first. Then we read the manual, then start configuring. we should also, before even evaluating it, set up access controls and bring in the techs who will actually be doing this in future.
estj - why the f** do you want to do all that now, we need to see if it works, thats what the trial is for. I am going to call their support.
intj - they're not going to configure it for you. They can only answer specific questions. They do have a paid training program, but its not good value for money, too pricey.as they say in the open source forums, rtfm.
estj - hang on, i have called them, can you hear? its ringing, I have it on speaker. I can conference in your cell if you like.
...its before hours, SLAM sound
estj - whats rtfm?
intj - means read the effing manual
estj - you never say 'f***', do you? pardon my f****** french, ha ha ha
intj - funny, funny. ok, i am going to bring in X alone, he can teach the guys on the other shifts later. we need to set up access restriction from the start as the first thing.
estj - ok, i'll play around with it. i am pretty good at this stuff, don't you think? You have seen me work this kinda stuff.
intj - silence
estj - how long will the access control take?
intj - about 10 minutes
estj - i say we do it right now. Whaddya think?
intj - ok, no problem. give me 15 minutes, i will call you back when its done. We give X, you and me access.
estj - ok.
10 minutes later, back on call.
intj - done
estj - great, that was nice and quick. X is joining us in a minute.
intj - what for?
estj - wtf, you said you wanted to start with him.
intj - but there are other steps
estj - i am confused. what steps?
intj - we will use this call to note down a bulleted list of the things we need done with this thing. then , give me a couple days to read the manual. we will start configuring it and call support with specific questions.
estj - ok, i will leave all that to you, this is all a left brain thing, its right up your alley.
intj - ok, no problem. the left brain right brain business is a myth, like i told you before, maybe around 102 times so far.
oop, the manual says there are known issues with MySQL.
estj - so its not good for us? its not gonna work? can you give me the link to the manual?
intj - here you go. look at link X.
estj - hang on, i have to put this link in a notepad in my dropbox folder.
intj - ok
estj - i have too many folders and files, i am losing track of it all
intj - let me organize it for you
estj - no, no, i got it now. do you see it in your dropbox, i put it under your folder
intj - i don't use the dropbox. i use our vault, so should you, its secure and auto backed up. its ok, as long as your not putting sensitive credentials there
estj - its also secure and encrypted. i am sure they won't lose the data. i have XYZ backup program for my computer anyhow.
intj - sure, but its external, we built our own now. are you storing your credentials in dropbox?
estj - i have to learn all that suff again.we will get there soon.hang on. (Yells some instructions to someone halfway across the floor asking that X need not join the meeting)
OKAY, so its not going to work for us?
intj - it will work, i am sure
estj - but you said it doesn't work if we use MySQL.
intj - i did not, but there are some settings to be done for MySQL.I just read up on it.
estj - i thought you did say that. it sounded like you said that. so you think you can set it up now?
intj - no, not now, later. i will read up first.
estj - ok send that list when you have it done, i'll finalize it.
intj - ok
estj - you have the support number to call? i just emailed it to you along with their working hours for your reference.
how is your neck pain? did you start the yoga exercise yet? I used to have that, its all about posture and i find that this yoga excercise really helps.
intj - ok
estj - thank you for everything, i really appreciate it.I have another meeting to jump ontolater in the hour, i could use the time to prepare something for it.OK, i will talk to you soon, bye bye.
intj - ok, bye.
2 days later - new meeting with X, ESTJ and INTJ
estj - hi how are you? X, how are things? You did a good job with that issue last week.
X - thanks
estj - OK, lets get started, where are we at?
intj - ok , we got the primary goals and then other goals set out. we are gonna configure and get it all done now.
estj - right. everybody should have that file open.X, do you have it before you?
X - yes
estj - ok, so you know how to configure it
intj - we are gonna try
[technicalities and blah ... until everything is pretty much done, except for some setting]
X - let me re read page x to see how thats done
estj - i have been playing with it, i know how, here, let me show you.
I told you this was just like program X. I am real good at finding and doings things.
2 second silence
Thats what I do, get things done.I may not be in your league in this area, but i am pretty good at it, whaddya say?
intj - yes, you are good.
estj - ok, X will train Y and Z on it, so we have someone round the clock that knows this stuff. Have you tested the access control?
intj - the access controls work.
estj - but did you test it out, see if someone else can get in and use the program?
intj - no, but if this isn't working, then everything else about it will be broken too, so its bound to work.
estj - i think we should test it. X will test it when you get a chance. INTJ's time is too valuable to be used for this.
Ok, thats a nice piece of work. thanks. so we can go ahead and buy it, i will tell A to buy it. OK?
intj - ok
estj - alright, we are all set here now. thank you, i have to run out for an hour or more now, my son is here, going to grab a bite to eat with him.Hows your baby doing, X? How old is she now?
X and ESTJ start to discuss various baby stats, milestones and advice etc. INTJ tries to tune out and then interrupts
INTJ - 'OK, i gotta go now, bye'
X - ok, bye
ESTJ - bye bye