So I first asked this question on a thread named INFJ Mistype videos in an exchange with the op.
I wanted to explore this a little more elsewhere because i'm pretty sure I was getting on the op's nerves
But we were discussing how INFJ's would communicate. (the op said i'm an INFP )
I asked :
" If in conversation Se is taking in objective external stimuli and Ni is also at work what would that look like? How do you measure the disparity between NiSe at work v Ne. If Ne is objectively intuiting external stimuli and NiSe is subjectively intuiting external stimuli what does that look like? How does that manifest itself in conversation?"
any takers?
I see NiSe users "having answers out of nowhere." Most of the ones I know consider themselves to be psychic.
My NeSi recognizes past recognized patterns and applies them, consciously or unconsciously, to "appear psychic." I think that NiSe is a lot more unconscious than NeSi, so NiSe users say things like:
"I just know"
"I can't explain why, but I just know"
"I'm having trouble putting it into words"
"I have a bad feeling"
"It isn't irrational, it is true. I know it is true, I'm always right."
NeSi:
"Let's talk about the similarities between beavers and clouds. Beavers float in water and clouds float in air. So for fish beavers are like clouds."
"Well you see, x relates to y because I remember that y is equal to a, b and c and x is equal to d, e, and f. So they are related, sort of...and this is why my view of the alphabet is a juxtaposed one."
"The badger did it! I noticed that despite the fact that he was in a wheelchair, he had
scuff marks on his shoes." (Taken from The Mentalist...sort of).
Granted, this is also my NeTi perspective.
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I can't say I'm getting poor marks (they are a lot higher than the averages for the grade) but her expectations of me are much closer to 100%. I have the potential to raise my marks to that level, but I'm not putting in the effort - and we both know that - because I tend to put my interests ahead of my marks. She tells me about how my interests won't provide a great income for myself and a possible, future family and children; she's not aware that I don't mind living a semi-ascetic life to stick to my interests and won't put a child through a poor life to comfort my instinct to procreate and have somebody take care of me when I'm old.
This does not sound ENTP in the slightest. Not even a teeny bit, except maybe the income part...and that really pertains to E3's I think.
Also, I got okay marks- I considered a B to be a failure at that age.
But, yes, I hate the system too; it makes no sense to me - too much useless information that I will never have anything to do with and neither want anything to do with. Those who constantly fret about their marks and careers I simply see as slave-like and want nothing to do with, regardless of what their income will be.
Similar feeling in you?
Yes, a very similar feeling. For some people, success is happiness, but it isn't true happiness. It is like eating greasy fries or ramen for a week when you are hungry: you are full, and content, but you feel like you are missing something.
I understand that we need systems- but I wish we had alternative systems for people who think like me/us. Project based, or something to that effect. Something that would help us to our greatest potential. For me, memorizing facts and regurgitating them isn't the essence of my being.
It is about memorizing facts and extrapolating. I've created concepts my teachers consider remarkable, and nothing was regurgitated- merely backed up.
This is why I hate school and I try to do things in as creative a way as possible.