Esoteric Wench
Professional Trickster
- Joined
- Dec 20, 2009
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- MBTI Type
- ENFP
- Enneagram
- 7w8
But in this situation-recognize that my end point is universal condemnation of the individual under question. Once damned, there is no coming back. So to pass an Fi judgment of that severity is something done after a great deal of thought and investigation. I cant align my values with you just because you are upset and need an ally. Damn. That's significant. I must make sure the judgment is correct-because of the consequences of the judgment upon the person in question.
Thus-as Tallulah noted as being frustrating-I will not agree and will actually try and objective evaluate the situation. If it is my ENTP buddy bitching about her boss, I will be chill and just support her-but when you are asking me to morally condemn a mother who you are seeking to help-I cant do that.
I realize this is an interpretation issue, which can be worked around, but it takes time to build those strategies.
I thought this very profound Orobas! This is EXACTLY how it feels for me. EXACTLY.
Sometimes I wish I didn't understand these Fi/Te and Fe/Ti differences so well. It's like I've seen behind the curtain now. There is a naive joy in not knowing how differently other people think about the world... Like I used to think that everyone felt the same way about not re-aligning one's values just for the sake of personal allegiance.
This brings up an interesting question about what is personal allegiance to an Fi-user versus an Fe-user. At least for me, I think that if I share my inner emo with you, that means I trust you and am giving you my allegiance. Note that I'm not sharing my conclusions, but I'm willing to share my process which is a very personal and private thing for me. And for me to make myself vulnerable to you in this way means I trust you and care for you and have got your back. It does not mean I'll always agree with you because my first allegiance is to my Fi-value system. But within the scope of that value system, I'll take a bullet for you.
This kind of Fi allegiance sort of reminds me the kind of allegiance two self-proclaimed Christians might share. They might be friends and display allegiance to one another, but there would be an understanding that never would they ask for nor want the other person to violate their faith for the sake of allegiance or friendship. In other words, God first, then family and friends.
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Well in Fi terms, this would be Fi values first, then family and friends.
Hope that makes sense.