Elaine
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- Sep 16, 2013
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- MBTI Type
- INTJ
- Enneagram
- 1w9
Umm... Well, I have a question. I am an 8( which is rather uncommon for an INTP, though in the quiz 5 was closely) . Most of the tests give me a 8w9 vibe. And while I partially agree with this, I also partially question this. I am not really visibly agressive unless angered, I can be rather quiet and not touch anyone. I can be really nice and supportive to others as long as they' re not hostile to me. Seems like 8w9 traits. But I know that 9 is associated with calmness. Then I recall my INFP friend. Both of us value calmness, though in a different way. For her, calmness and inner peace are above else, she is ready to omit her even the most desired goals just not to disturb her calmness. She can be rather gentle, but sometimes she is just too gentle, she can' t be hard when it' s needed to( maybe that' s why I always have to push her forward) .I' m not saying she is an awful person or that I don' t want to be friends with her. Just this is the part of her personality that I don' t understand. And then there is me. I value calmness as well, try to keep my head calm, but for me calmness is a mean I need, not a goal to strive for. I need calmness to keep my mind clear, so that I can rationally think and find optimal ways to achieve my goals. If I lose calmness, I give in to panic, therefore I can' t think clearly, therefore I can' t achieve my goals. I am calm on the outside, but I won' t desert my goals and ideals. The ends don' t justify the means for me, but I will fight others if they stand on my way( though I won' t commit any acts I consider dirty or amoral) . I will fight the people close to me only if they did something that contradicts my beliefs and morality. And sometimes I can be flexible, I can omit minor goals, but if I find some big goal to achieve, the one that will make me dream of it and fascinate me, I will put all my passion and energy into it, I will go against rules and society( however, I always went against rules and society) , I will neglect many things that seem minor to me, only to pursue it, as long as my beliefs and morality allow me.
So, am I really an 8w9, or some other 8? Just the omitting goals solely for calmness is not my behaviour.
So, am I really an 8w9, or some other 8? Just the omitting goals solely for calmness is not my behaviour.