AnnexInTheSky
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- Aug 24, 2016
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- MBTI Type
- ISFP
- Enneagram
- 9w8
- Instinctual Variant
- sp/sx
The more I research the more I get confused by which functions I use. It seems like I can relate to absolutely everything and rationalize my way into any type. Heck, I could even convince myself I'm a suppressed ESTx if I tried hard enough... but I would know I was convincing myself so it wouldn't work.
Anyway, I don't even know if I'm an IxFP anymore because apparently Fi knows what it values. Yeah I generally know what I'm feeling at a given moment, even if it's hard to put into words, but I really don't know what I value. I feel like I use Fe because I'm swayed by what other people think, and I try to take the other person's viewpoint into consideration. I care about what other people think of me, and I'm hurt if they think badly of me, even though Fi is said to not care? I mean sometimes I don't care but still. Apparently Fi stands by their values, and I do that sometimes when my values--which I'm not normally aware of--are violated but I feel bad when I do it because I usually don't believe I'm right. I hate when other people push their values and I would never push mine. I also don't exactly know who I am (but then again I'm pretty young and still figuring that out).
I'm wondering if this is actually Ni-Fe working together to look like Fi? So I'd really be an INFJ (not INTJ because my Te is horrible; I have absolutely no motivation to do things unless I feel like it, but there's the possibility that it is my auxiliary, just severely underdeveloped). So would me overanalyzing MBTI be my tertiary Ti trying to make sense of everything? I'm not really sure. I also am picky with details and good word choice and get annoyed when people spread falsehoods and I am driven to correct it. Or is that inferior Te?
I guess I use Ni because I can have very abstract/symbolic thoughts, I have these epiphanies and perspective shifts sometimes, and I'm really imaginative--I can create these realistic, vivid scenarios in my head--and while I can't exactly see into the future (I'm really bad at long-term planning and would rather go with the flow though I would like some non-restrictive order in my life), I do sometimes visualize a very negative outcome and I worry about it because I feel like I can't avoid whatever is going to happen. I've believed a few times that a certain day was the day I was going to die, and nothing could convince me otherwise. Or I have these gut feelings that something bad was going to happen that I rely on too much. I visualize how I am going to do something and I do it, usually small things, but often I don't stick to the plan and I change some things as the opportunity arises, or get sidetracked.
I relate to both inferior Te and Se, each to a certain degree. Inferior Te because when I'm pushed over the edge I get angry and criticize others, and I desperately try to fix whatever perceived problems there are (I think). Inferior Se as well because I sometimes feel like I'm not part of my body, that I'm disconnected from others, and I experience hypochondria. When I'm stressed I never really do indulge in sensory pleasures, but I do get aggressive and snarky, and I overly focus on small details and mistakes.
I took the Keys 2 Cognition test, even though I've done so quite a few times, and these are my results:
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Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ****************************************** (42.6)
excellent use
introverted Sensing (Si) ****************** (18)
limited use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************** (26.4)
average use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) *************************** (27.2)
average use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ****************** (18.6)
limited use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ******************** (20.1)
limited use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ********************************** (34.6)
good use
introverted Feeling (Fi) *************************************************** (51.9)
excellent use
Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ESFP
Lead (Dominant) Process
Extraverted Sensing (Se): Immersing in the present context. Responding naturally to everything tangible you detect through your senses. Checking with what your gut instincts say. Testing limits and take risks for big rewards.
Support (Auxilliary) Process
Introverted Feeling (Fi): Staying true to who you really are. Paying close attention to your personal identity, values and beliefs. Checking with your conscience. Choosing behavior congruent with what is important to you.
If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ISFP, or ENFP
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I'm pretty freaking surprised I got ESFP. That's the first time I've gotten that result (but I usually score Fi as highest regardless). I'm not very extraverted though I do like being around people and I get that buzz after a good conversation. ESFP seems pretty unlikely though. I doubt that Se would be my dominant; I'm still very much in my head. I used to think I was an Ne user (and I used to score high on Ne because I believed that I used it well) but I think since my Ni developed (assuming I didn't use it all my life, if I truly am Ni-dom I would have had it since I was a child) I see that's not the case. I don't really see the point of brainstorming ideas if they aren't going to be realized somehow. I see possibilities, but they're mostly possibilities for things I could do. I used to not consider being an SP type because I am very clumsy and absent-minded, and I'm not good at sports at all, but now I know that doesn't mean you can't have high Se.
I think my Fe scored pretty high because I do like people, I actually like caring for others, and I think I'm pretty okay when it comes to reading others (and noticing changes in facial expression, body language, etc.), but I'm not one to actively create a positive social atmosphere or promote social norms. I don't like infringing on other people like that. I'm pretty sensitive to overstepping people's boundaries or when people overstep mine. If I'm put in charge of others I feel really uncomfortable and would rather let others do their own thing, especially if I don't care about what we're supposed to be doing. If I tried to control others I think I would go overboard and be a total control freak, and I'm afraid of becoming that because I would feel bad about it later when I've calmed down. So I try to operate on the principle of "live and let live".
I don't know if this is enough information but I can add more if you want. Thanks.
Anyway, I don't even know if I'm an IxFP anymore because apparently Fi knows what it values. Yeah I generally know what I'm feeling at a given moment, even if it's hard to put into words, but I really don't know what I value. I feel like I use Fe because I'm swayed by what other people think, and I try to take the other person's viewpoint into consideration. I care about what other people think of me, and I'm hurt if they think badly of me, even though Fi is said to not care? I mean sometimes I don't care but still. Apparently Fi stands by their values, and I do that sometimes when my values--which I'm not normally aware of--are violated but I feel bad when I do it because I usually don't believe I'm right. I hate when other people push their values and I would never push mine. I also don't exactly know who I am (but then again I'm pretty young and still figuring that out).
I'm wondering if this is actually Ni-Fe working together to look like Fi? So I'd really be an INFJ (not INTJ because my Te is horrible; I have absolutely no motivation to do things unless I feel like it, but there's the possibility that it is my auxiliary, just severely underdeveloped). So would me overanalyzing MBTI be my tertiary Ti trying to make sense of everything? I'm not really sure. I also am picky with details and good word choice and get annoyed when people spread falsehoods and I am driven to correct it. Or is that inferior Te?
I guess I use Ni because I can have very abstract/symbolic thoughts, I have these epiphanies and perspective shifts sometimes, and I'm really imaginative--I can create these realistic, vivid scenarios in my head--and while I can't exactly see into the future (I'm really bad at long-term planning and would rather go with the flow though I would like some non-restrictive order in my life), I do sometimes visualize a very negative outcome and I worry about it because I feel like I can't avoid whatever is going to happen. I've believed a few times that a certain day was the day I was going to die, and nothing could convince me otherwise. Or I have these gut feelings that something bad was going to happen that I rely on too much. I visualize how I am going to do something and I do it, usually small things, but often I don't stick to the plan and I change some things as the opportunity arises, or get sidetracked.
I relate to both inferior Te and Se, each to a certain degree. Inferior Te because when I'm pushed over the edge I get angry and criticize others, and I desperately try to fix whatever perceived problems there are (I think). Inferior Se as well because I sometimes feel like I'm not part of my body, that I'm disconnected from others, and I experience hypochondria. When I'm stressed I never really do indulge in sensory pleasures, but I do get aggressive and snarky, and I overly focus on small details and mistakes.
I took the Keys 2 Cognition test, even though I've done so quite a few times, and these are my results:
--
Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ****************************************** (42.6)
excellent use
introverted Sensing (Si) ****************** (18)
limited use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************** (26.4)
average use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) *************************** (27.2)
average use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ****************** (18.6)
limited use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ******************** (20.1)
limited use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ********************************** (34.6)
good use
introverted Feeling (Fi) *************************************************** (51.9)
excellent use
Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ESFP
Lead (Dominant) Process
Extraverted Sensing (Se): Immersing in the present context. Responding naturally to everything tangible you detect through your senses. Checking with what your gut instincts say. Testing limits and take risks for big rewards.
Support (Auxilliary) Process
Introverted Feeling (Fi): Staying true to who you really are. Paying close attention to your personal identity, values and beliefs. Checking with your conscience. Choosing behavior congruent with what is important to you.
If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ISFP, or ENFP
--
I'm pretty freaking surprised I got ESFP. That's the first time I've gotten that result (but I usually score Fi as highest regardless). I'm not very extraverted though I do like being around people and I get that buzz after a good conversation. ESFP seems pretty unlikely though. I doubt that Se would be my dominant; I'm still very much in my head. I used to think I was an Ne user (and I used to score high on Ne because I believed that I used it well) but I think since my Ni developed (assuming I didn't use it all my life, if I truly am Ni-dom I would have had it since I was a child) I see that's not the case. I don't really see the point of brainstorming ideas if they aren't going to be realized somehow. I see possibilities, but they're mostly possibilities for things I could do. I used to not consider being an SP type because I am very clumsy and absent-minded, and I'm not good at sports at all, but now I know that doesn't mean you can't have high Se.
I think my Fe scored pretty high because I do like people, I actually like caring for others, and I think I'm pretty okay when it comes to reading others (and noticing changes in facial expression, body language, etc.), but I'm not one to actively create a positive social atmosphere or promote social norms. I don't like infringing on other people like that. I'm pretty sensitive to overstepping people's boundaries or when people overstep mine. If I'm put in charge of others I feel really uncomfortable and would rather let others do their own thing, especially if I don't care about what we're supposed to be doing. If I tried to control others I think I would go overboard and be a total control freak, and I'm afraid of becoming that because I would feel bad about it later when I've calmed down. So I try to operate on the principle of "live and let live".
I don't know if this is enough information but I can add more if you want. Thanks.