Short version: How do you see people with their hands in their pockets (pants/jeans/etc. pockets, not the sweater/jacket/etc. pockets)? What is your initial thought about them? Assuming they have a neutral stance, neutral facial expression, etc..
Long version: Recently I've been to a family member's workplace. It's a facility where they do data-entry - basically processing what's on paper to the computer. I wanted to take a look at the old tech that they are throwing out (386s, etc.). Since I'm looking for a job, today he has informed me that his workplace is hiring for something else than data-entry. When we conversed about the position, he's told me that his coworkers perceived me as very arrogant and not caring what others think. The interesting thing is that I didn't speak to any of the coworkers for more than 2 words, "How are you doing?", "Okay." for the most part. All I did was walked around with having my hands in my pockets (I was extra bored because to get to the old parts, I had to go through the "say hi to everyone" nonsense of my family member...), no facial expressions except fake happy face when they ask me how I am (hell, half of them don't even know my name!). He's also said that I was perceived as such when I was sitting still with my head down at a funeral (had my reasons to not say "it's a waste of time," they paid off ). I was sitting just like anyone else, some of them were looking around, and I know that my head was down during the "sitting at the casket" process (is it called mourning in English?), as I don't remember his co-workers.
Since he likes to complain and exaggerate things (or even make them up) about his family members, my theory is that it is not, what he highlighted - hands in my pockets. He put the "you had your hands in your pockets" as something very influential and meaningful, something that made them think so. So I've started to wonder, how exactly do people perceive people with hands in their pockets? Usually I don't do that, only when I'm as bored as I was then or when I'm cold...
Extra points: A story at least remotely related to this one.
Why not others? I know that ISTJs and ISFJs pay a lot of attention to that kind of thing, as it's considered social norms.
Well, in this situation, there's no way I could've appeared as anything except reserved.
Family gatherings - why does it make you unwelcoming? I mean if you shake hands and all. I don't do it, but it wouldn't appear to me if I was the guest.
Why not others? I know that ISTJs and ISFJs pay a lot of attention to that kind of thing, as it's considered social norms.
Maybe not with noticing but with perceiving. Sensors usually like social norms, intuitives usually don't.
Interesting posts.
I think that it can look that way to fearful people - intimidating, and they can project their hatred, insecurities, fears, etc., on that person as they do not know the real reason behind it. And in this case, there was no other cues.
Are you high?
For this precise reason I use words like "usually" and "mostly." Usually they repel such comments.
Both my ISTJ dad and I don't notice that sort of thing. He is more concerned with overall behavior than insignificant things like this. I couldn't care less about either of these things.Why not others? I know that ISTJs and ISFJs pay a lot of attention to that kind of thing, as it's considered social norms.
I hate this stereotype of sensors being hyper-aware of their environment. I'm perhaps one of the least observant sensors you'll meet. We can be absent-minded too.Good point! Maybe my theory was a little off base. Still though I think there is something rather sensorish about noticing these kinds of things but maybe I'm wrong again as I could be underestimating the observation powers of some intuitives.
My overall body language was neutral, I've already mentioned it ...
It's just one of those common misconceptions. Saying all ISTP's are risk takers is another example.I have noticed that around these forums. Maybe it's a cultural thing?
I disagree, especially the bolded part.Overall, sensors draw a lot from it, especially as they get older. More/less confined, repressed cultures may have more influence over such things, and it may be a part of the "overall behavior" if that's the case.
What I meant was that behavior, like doing what is polite and what is considered "okay" to do (or say) in certain situations may become the overall behavior.
I'm not going to alter it - I don't care how they see me. Even if I worked there I wouldn't care...
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My type is a mystery.