I don't do this so much anymore.
I was wondering this, so thanks for providing outside confirmation for my mental map.
unhealthy ENFJ: paranoid delusions, incapable of taking criticism, loud, would manipulate people into being emotionally dependent on her by alternately complimenting and criticizing out of proportion and making "intuitive observations" about people to make them feel special, talked about how behavior was not appropriate according to a mystical "they," always talking about some tragic thing going on with herself or someone else, always seeing meaning where it wasn't, provoking emotional reactions and then feeding off the energy, gave way too much information about herself, said a lot of magical and mystical things she believed were "scientifically proven" when she'd just read some article about it, put people on guilt trips, and was the biggest hypocrite I've ever met.
On the positive side, she was smart and a really loving person. She ran a nonprofit organization helping people in the community with basic needs; unfortunately it was badly run and she was using it to make herself feel useful by being selfless in the extreme, and further making people dependent on her. I think deep down the only way she felt like she would be wanted was if people needed her.
These are personal insults. And personal insults are against the rules and may lead to banning.
Actually, one is a question, and one is a conditional statement.
(It seems as though you are determined to find an insult behind every bush.)
It's not a taboo to bring up negative traits, but these threads tend to disintegrate into a mud-slinging mess very quickly, so once you've had enough of it you try to stay away
Vilku lols said:My dad's an ENFJ. Like most people closest to ourselves, I've seen both healthier and less healthy sides of him. He can frustrate me so much with his rash logic and unexplained convictions. He also tends to guilt trip and twist words to fuel his argument when he feels undermined or contested. My rebel spirit probably doesn't help. Things are better now that I'm older, but I still get pissed when i watch him do that to others, especially my mom! His healthier side is great though! We connect with music and theories and are the weirdos in my family of S's.
My dad's an ENFJ. Like most people closest to ourselves, I've seen both healthier and less healthy sides of him. He can frustrate me so much with his rash logic and unexplained convictions. He also tends to guilt trip and twist words to fuel his argument when he feels undermined or contested. My rebel spirit probably doesn't help. Things are better now that I'm older, but I still get pissed when i watch him do that to others, especially my mom! His healthier side is great though! We connect with music and theories and are the weirdos in my family of S's.
infp's. i know they arent healthy
Are they immunocompromised, or do a few of them merely see things differently than you?
.. =/ (speak english, could you?)
impulsively judging others without even thinking about the judgment they make.
like my friend, infp 7w6 so sx who blames others for his misfortunes. even people he dont know.
and also not using Te makes them useless
do i need to analyze more?
*rolls eyes*
UGH.. those are emotional criticism, not insults, fool. im criticising you for your emotional irrationality. -.-
learn to accept criticism, maybe then you can grow?
i think this thread has turned into place for people to voice their prejudices against people they don't like by attaching an arbitrary type to said person
What is the difference between an insult and an unflattering observation, or a criticism?I come here to present new ideas and listen to criticism.
However I am resolutely opposed to personal insults towards me or any member because personal insults are against the rules and may lead to banning.
This is the main usage of typology. To give names to people's prejudices.
In my opinion: an insult is designed to make the person feel bad about her/himself. An unflattering observation or criticism is not insulting if the intent is to not affect the listener this way; taking care to make sure this doesn't happen makes the intention clear. Not taking such care is not insulting in itself, but still is poor treatment because it shows the deliverer of the criticism does not care whether the receiver takes it as an insult; so in a way, if the receiver can't tell whether it is an insult or not, the deliverer is partly responsible no matter how much of a tendency the receiver has to get butthurt. Nevertheless, it is always preferable to avoid such tendencies in oneself.What is the difference between an insult and an unflattering observation, or a criticism?
I have always maintained that an insult is in the eye of the beholder. Are you saying instead that insult is in the intention of the speaker?In my opinion: an insult is designed to make the person feel bad about her/himself. An unflattering observation or criticism is not insulting if the intent is to not affect the listener this way; taking care to make sure this doesn't happen makes the intention clear. Not taking such care is not insulting in itself, but still is poor treatment because it shows the deliverer of the criticism does not care whether the receiver takes it as an insult.
Yes.I have always maintained that an insult is in the eye of the beholder. Are you saying instead that insult is in the intention of the speaker?
I have always maintained that an insult is in the eye of the beholder. Are you saying instead that insult is in the intention of the speaker?
Yes, that would be a failed attempt to insult. It works the same way with compliments. I have had people try to insult me by saying things that I receive simply as objective truths, and try to compliment me by describing me in ways that I find distinctly unflattering. I do not hold them responsible for whatever emotional effect I feel, but it does tell me something about their values and tastes, as well as how well they know me.So in your opinion, if you were to try to insult someone but they didn't take it as such, you would not have insulted them at all? It can't be all in the eye of the beholder.