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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    Hold on now, on the flip side, and there is a flip side. I can't stand people who are so far in one direction that they loose their perspective. Extreme Js are so in a box that I don't see much room for growth unless it is personal. Up against the NTJs that I know I seem very P. I give people the bennifit of the doubt beyone the average persons limits, but as I see it if there is a different explination, it should be explored. It is not until all avenues are exausted that I will say, yes this person is such and such. I find people fascinating in their rationality. I love to study them. I hold a very objective view of people as they don't pretain to me. It is not until it gets personal that the J side comes out.

    I love the freedom to explore as I see fit without having the standards of accountability. For instance while I may plan the primiter when I go out, I leave enough room in the middle for complete freedom of action. I am usually the life of the party, or you cant find me while I bounce around from person to person to see what makes them tick.

    Case and point, I go out with INTJ friend who prefers piano bars and classy stuff. We are at the club and she is miserable. I tell her "Do you know how many stories are floating around this place? If you just allow yourself you can have fun here and find it interesting." To prove my point I pick a random guy from the bar and sit down to talk to him. In under five min I found out that he had spent jail time for buying a cop lunch with counterfiet money. I thought that was hilarious and continued to analyze with INTJ on what would motivate a person to attempt such a thing. He knew the guy was a cop.

    I am very easy going if I don't have to get close to you. I am known for being wierd, creative, and "larger than life", motivated, dominating, not trustworthy, funny, not afraid to look like an idiot, objective, and easy going. I can't spell to save my life and I am not a linear thinker. I hate paper work.

    I dont understand how I get such mixed reactions.

    I don't believe everything is so concrete

    Even as a kid I was highly motivated to figure out the things others could do that I could not. I wanted to have all the skill and talent for myself so I could take it apart and understand it.. Not to one up but because I was fascinated and could only really use myself as research,

    Is the craving to learn, refine, and master everything, a feeling? Because if it is I am deffinatley a feeler.

    I think that is the most accurate discription I have ever given of myself in these last two posts, and I'm done.
    You haven't given the kind of information necessary for me to discern if you are a J or a P. Not only that but you are prejudiced against being a J, so you're not being honest with yourself therefore it's impossible for me to discern your type. However the tests you take always say you're an ENTJ. The Discordia test is the only one I know of where you can't skew the results because of your preconceived ideas... or at least it's very difficult.

    The other post where your friends accuse you of being a control freak. That's the one that I tend to believe more. Why? Because your friends are feeding back to you how they feel about your personality. ENTJs come across like a steamroller. And that's what they're telling you.

    Perhaps you should study more the difference between J and P. There are whole threads on the differences. Also it's important to remember that the preferences are compared to other people. I used to think I was really observant until I met my husband. Now I understand what they mean when they say "observant".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
    ...I am somewhat of a perfectionist in that instead of juggling many details, I minimize them so that lesser details works more efficiently for me. Hence the five outfits in my closet. I had a girl at work rearrange my station to be more organized. It took her an hour. In thirty seconds I had it back to where I thought things should be for covinience and use. To the outsider it was madness.
    That's not perfectionism. That is J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGirl View Post
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    I have learned to plan ahead for my P time. I hate having to stop for little details.
    You plan ahead. That makes you J.
    What is "P time"?
    What do you mean by stopping for little details?

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    I am a steam roller by others perspectives, by my own I am an opportunist. It is just sitting there waiting for someone to grab it but no one is paying attention. By the time people come around, they think I haven't played fairly.

    I guess I am a J, I really value control over my own life and that includes the external attributions that are introduced by others. But, I would love to meet someone who is equally if not more competent than I so I can revel in my P-ness under their organization. Problem is I almost always discredit others ideas of organization because of holes that have not been filled.

    Thank You all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    You plan ahead. That makes you J.
    What is "P time"?
    What do you mean by stopping for little details?
    P time are those times where things dont have to add up or make sense or maybe everything is not so decisivley calculated.

    When you just go on a whim. Even if it makes no discernable sense to do so. Who cares if it makes sense at the moment for some reason I want to follow this just to see where it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    You haven't given the kind of information necessary for me to discern if you are a J or a P. Not only that but you are prejudiced against being a J, so you're not being honest with yourself therefore it's impossible for me to discern your type. However the tests you take always say you're an ENTJ. The Discordia test is the only one I know of where you can't skew the results because of your preconceived ideas... or at least it's very difficult.

    The other post where your friends accuse you of being a control freak. That's the one that I tend to believe more. Why? Because your friends are feeding back to you how they feel about your personality. ENTJs come across like a steamroller. And that's what they're telling you.

    Perhaps you should study more the difference between J and P. There are whole threads on the differences. Also it's important to remember that the preferences are compared to other people. I used to think I was really observant until I met my husband. Now I understand what they mean when they say "observant".
    INTJMom speaks the truth.

    From your descriptions, I would say J. The thing that really stood out to me was you saying you liked to do things in advance, so you could make sure nothing went wrong, and that you liked to plan your leisure time in advance so you could have a good time while you were there. Both those things are really J, and would drive a P batty.

    Perhaps you're just reacting to some of the negative ENTJ stereotypes, so you don't want to identify as that?

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    hey THATgirl
    one thing to remember is that J or P only mean that either the judging function or percieving function is extraverted
    and since your are an extravert, that would leave ENTJ or ENTP

    by the fact that you drive your friends crazy with your steamrolling and organization or whatever, you are more likely an ENTJ - a Te dom
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    P time are those times where things dont have to add up or make sense or maybe everything is not so decisivley calculated.
    This only means that you are an NT that thinks about things.

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    ENTJ people use their thinking to run as much of the world as may be theirs to run. They enjoy executive action and long-range planning. Reliance on thinking makes them logical, analytical, objectively critical, and not likely to be convinced by anything but reasoning. They tend to focus on the ideas, not the person behind the ideas.

    They like to think ahead, organize plans, situations, and operations related to a project, and make a systematic effort to reach their objectives on schedule. They have little patience with confusion or inefficiency, and can be tough when the situation calls for toughness.

    They think conduct should be ruled by logic, and govern their own behavior accordingly. They live by a definite set of rules that embody their basic judgements about the world. Any change in their ways requires a deliberate change in their rules.

    They are mainly interested in seeing the possibilities beyond what is present, obvious, or known. Intuition heightens their intellectual interest, curiosity for new ideas, tolerance for theory, and taste for complex problems.

    ENTJs are seldom content in jobs that make no demands upon their intuition. They are stimulated by problems and are often found in executive jobs where they can find and implement new solutions. Because their interest is in the big picture, they may overlook the importance of certain details. Since ENTJs tend to team up with like-minded intuitives who may also underestimate the realities of a situation, they usually need a person around with good common sense to bring up overlooked facts and take care of important details.

    Like the other decisive types, ENTJs run the risk of deciding too quickly before they have fully examined the situation. They need to stop and listen to the other person's viewpoint, especially with people who are not in a position to talk back. This is seldom easy for them, but if they do not take time to understand, they may judge too quickly, without enough facts or enough regard for what other people think or feel.

    ENTJs may need to work at taking feeling values into account. Relying so much on their logical approach, they may overlook feeling values--what they care about and what other people care about. If feeling values are ignored too much, they may build up pressure and expression in inappropriate ways. Although ENTJs are naturally good at seeing what is illogical and inconsistent, they may need to develop the art of appreciation. One positive way to exercise their feelings is though appreciation of other people's merits and ideas. ENTJs who learn to make it a rule to mention what they like, not merely what needs correcting, find the results worthwhile both in their work and in their private lives.

    Summary - ENTJ
    Contributions to the Organization

    • Bring strong ideals of how organizations should treat people
    • Enjoy leading and facilitating teams
    • Enjoy cooperation
    • Communicate organizational values
    • Like to bring matters to fruitful conclusions

    Leadership Style

    • Lead through personal enthusiasm
    • Take a participative stance in managing people and projects
    • Responsive to followers' needs
    • Challenge the organization to make actions congruent with values
    • Inspire change

    Preferred Work Environment

    • Contains individuals focused on changing things for the betterment of others
    • People-oriented
    • Supportive and social
    • Has a spirit of harmony
    • Encourages expression of self
    • Settled
    • Orderly

    Potential Pitfalls

    • May idealize others and suffer from blind loyalty
    • May sweep problems under the rug when in conflict
    • May ignore the task in favor of relationship issues
    • May take criticism personally

    Suggestions for Development

    • May need to recognize the limitations of people and guard against unquestioning loyalty
    • May need to learn to manage conflict productively
    • May need to pay as much attention to the details of the task as to the people
    • May need to suspend self-criticism and listen carefully to the objective information contained in feedback

    ENTJ - Murray State

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    I am very easy going if I don't have to get close to you. I am known for being wierd, creative, and "larger than life", motivated, dominating, not trustworthy, funny, not afraid to look like an idiot, objective, and easy going. I can't spell to save my life and I am not a linear thinker. I hate paper work.
    Intuitives, in general, wouldn't call themselves linear thinkers.
    They are the kinds of people who can easily go from Step A to Step Z often without knowing how they got there.

    Also I don't think anyone seriously likes paper work,

    It's hard to say if you are an ENTJ or ENTP but you know better than any of us do,
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