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Type Me?(Instinct)

Kanra Jest

Av'ent'Gar'de ~
Joined
Jun 30, 2015
Messages
2,388
MBTI Type
ENTP
Enneagram
4w3
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
-I'm passionate and need to share myself (ideas, views) like YouTube for example, but I hold back do to feeling too exposed and insecure. Also fleeting enthusiasm. One minute I'm ready to put something out there, but the next I suddenly close away into my fortress.

-Have experienced intense love or hatred at first glance (immediate spark) Love, yes. Hatred, unsure.

-Others are intimidated when I glare at them (bad mood), except an ENTJ 8w7 that just got threatened feeling and offended. Others make positive comments about my eyes. Either way, my eyes seem to effect people.

-People are drawn to me, a few proceeded to persue me. Whereas I observe but keep distance and have risk avoidance.(except I humored casino stuff a bit, with friends. But not habitually, and somehow I am good at it)

-Spark, obsession, romance, fantasiziing - only when I'm "In Love" per say, not the usual way I experience feelings. Most people I feel shallow and fleeting about.

-I attract alot of damaged people(I've even helped people...), and one psychopath (although I was fascinated with her mind)

-Rebellious, "attitude", always speaking my mind, "Do this"(they), "Why?"(me)

-I dress fashionably. Casual with bits of proper wear. Shades more than colors. I dislike colors that stand out. I've been told I was like a shadow walking around sometimes out of the corner of their eye... xD just it seems fashion has something to do with type too from what I've read.

-I have "deep eyes", "intense eyes" (compliments), or "sleepy/high" calm looking eyes

-Don't care about most everyone else aside from childhood friends, aquantances who might be useful to be kind to, or one that left me lovestruck which I might obsess over a bit unless I intentionally dull it out.

-Normally i don't feel much emotion. But once i listen to music that has depth, meaning, it makes me feel (usually). I can get lost in this feeling and enjoy it. Immerse in the music. Especially if I had a spark about someone then I'll drown myself in such material thinking about them. Otherwise I'm as poker faced on the inside as the outside.

-I'm a bit paranoid and use to hiding myself away to not take emotional risks which is partially why I can suddenly emotionally distance even from those I have feelings for.

-Seduction style? I prefer one on one affection. Publically I'm so nervous to show much other than holding hands. Observation, hesitance, observation, study. Claim. I'm cautious about relationship sort of things and my lack of public affection has bothered some.

-I do want to effect the world like an SO in some way. But I'd think that more my 3. To share insights with people more widespread and become well known.


I'm a type 3 and it seems like social = type 3 so how does one tell what is what?

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What do you think my instinctual stacking is?
 

Rouskyrie

New member
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-I'm passionate and need to share myself (ideas, views) like YouTube for example, but I hold back do to feeling too exposed and insecure. Also fleeting enthusiasm. One minute I'm ready to put something out there, but the next I suddenly close away into my fortress.

-Have experienced intense love or hatred at first glance (immediate spark) Love, yes. Hatred, unsure.

-Others are intimidated when I glare at them (bad mood), except an ENTJ 8w7 that just got threatened feeling and offended. Others make positive comments about my eyes. Either way, my eyes seem to effect people.

-People are drawn to me, a few proceeded to persue me. Whereas I observe but keep distance and have risk avoidance.(except I humored casino stuff a bit, with friends. But not habitually, and somehow I am good at it)

-Spark, obsession, romance, fantasiziing - only when I'm "In Love" per say, not the usual way I experience feelings. Most people I feel shallow and fleeting about.

-I attract alot of damaged people(I've even helped people...), and one psychopath (although I was fascinated with her mind)

-Rebellious, "attitude", always speaking my mind, "Do this"(they), "Why?"(me)

-I dress fashionably. Casual with bits of proper wear. Shades more than colors. I dislike colors that stand out. I've been told I was like a shadow walking around sometimes out of the corner of their eye... xD just it seems fashion has something to do with type too from what I've read.

-I have "deep eyes", "intense eyes" (compliments), or "sleepy/high" calm looking eyes

-Don't care about most everyone else aside from childhood friends, aquantances who might be useful to be kind to, or one that left me lovestruck which I might obsess over a bit unless I intentionally dull it out.

-Normally i don't feel much emotion. But once i listen to music that has depth, meaning, it makes me feel (usually). I can get lost in this feeling and enjoy it. Immerse in the music. Especially if I had a spark about someone then I'll drown myself in such material thinking about them. Otherwise I'm as poker faced on the inside as the outside.

-I'm a bit paranoid and use to hiding myself away to not take emotional risks which is partially why I can suddenly emotionally distance even from those I have feelings for.

-Seduction style? I prefer one on one affection. Publically I'm so nervous to show much other than holding hands. Observation, hesitance, observation, study. Claim. I'm cautious about relationship sort of things and my lack of public affection has bothered some.

-I do want to effect the world like an SO in some way. But I'd think that more my 3. To share insights with people more widespread and become well known.


I'm a type 3 and it seems like social = type 3 so how does one tell what is what?

-

What do you think my instinctual stacking is?

I get an Sx/Sp vibe from you. On the note of Sx/Sp:

"sx/sp
Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.
This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging. They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self-medicating.
Expression: intense, self-absorbed expression
Energy: intense energy expressed calmly, steadily, assertively
Behavior: intense, assertive, troubled and self absorbed
Mindset: "If I can make (us) have an orderly & pleasing lifestyle, I can keep up and escalate all this merging/intensity."
Blind spot: Likely to neglect their desire to maintain physical safety, comfort, and an orderly lifestyle for the sake of their primary concern of seeking intense connections and experiences, in average-healthy levels. May not have an awareness of the need to connect in a broader sense with the world, of a sense of security or in groups or of the need to seek it, or even of the need to foster approval, support, and understanding of themselves within groups they are connected with, often causing misunderstandings with allies, supporters, friends, and family members."

"SO blind spot - finds it hard to concern self with another’s agenda, dismissive. When the social instinct is least developed, the individual is going to find it difficult to see why it is important to form social connections or to cultivate multiple relationships. This, in turn, can lead to a certain amount of social isolation. As we all must find a niche in the larger whole, those whose social instinct is least developed, can find it difficult to negotiate the needs of the social realm which make this possible. They may feel that connecting socially will cost them something and consider interactions to be draining. They may find interdependence difficult and dependence on others barely tolerable, and thus attempt to attain a type of independence and self-sufficiency which is not possible for human beings. This “false independence” can lead to unnecessary suffering and impoverishment of experience. They would rather act as a lone force, lone wolves, I'm-on-my-own attitude, feeling that they don't need others and others don't need them. Fear of being emotionally crippled, being unable to connect with many people, self-conscious of being socially ungracious. It’s hard to take in the gifts and generosity of others. Projected fear - if I ignore others, they will ignore me. There’s an expectation of humiliation. A desire not to impose self on people in fear of not being wanted or being klutzy."

Does any of that resonate with you?

If you'd like to read through the source as a whole, here you go: Socionics - the16types.info - Instinctual Stackings
 

Kanra Jest

Av'ent'Gar'de ~
Joined
Jun 30, 2015
Messages
2,388
MBTI Type
ENTP
Enneagram
4w3
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
I get an Sx/Sp vibe from you. On the note of Sx/Sp:

"sx/sp
Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.
This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging. They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self-medicating.
Expression: intense, self-absorbed expression
Energy: intense energy expressed calmly, steadily, assertively
Behavior: intense, assertive, troubled and self absorbed
Mindset: "If I can make (us) have an orderly & pleasing lifestyle, I can keep up and escalate all this merging/intensity."
Blind spot: Likely to neglect their desire to maintain physical safety, comfort, and an orderly lifestyle for the sake of their primary concern of seeking intense connections and experiences, in average-healthy levels. May not have an awareness of the need to connect in a broader sense with the world, of a sense of security or in groups or of the need to seek it, or even of the need to foster approval, support, and understanding of themselves within groups they are connected with, often causing misunderstandings with allies, supporters, friends, and family members."

"SO blind spot - finds it hard to concern self with another’s agenda, dismissive. When the social instinct is least developed, the individual is going to find it difficult to see why it is important to form social connections or to cultivate multiple relationships. This, in turn, can lead to a certain amount of social isolation. As we all must find a niche in the larger whole, those whose social instinct is least developed, can find it difficult to negotiate the needs of the social realm which make this possible. They may feel that connecting socially will cost them something and consider interactions to be draining. They may find interdependence difficult and dependence on others barely tolerable, and thus attempt to attain a type of independence and self-sufficiency which is not possible for human beings. This “false independence” can lead to unnecessary suffering and impoverishment of experience. They would rather act as a lone force, lone wolves, I'm-on-my-own attitude, feeling that they don't need others and others don't need them. Fear of being emotionally crippled, being unable to connect with many people, self-conscious of being socially ungracious. It’s hard to take in the gifts and generosity of others. Projected fear - if I ignore others, they will ignore me. There’s an expectation of humiliation. A desire not to impose self on people in fear of not being wanted or being klutzy."

Does any of that resonate with you?

Very much so. I'm extremely internally conflicted with a constant push and pull. Wanting an intense deep connection. Someone to merge with inevitably. I see my dreams vividly and like to view life like chapters of a book. Under stress I can become fairly impulsive in extroverting it. May hit a wall, curse, speak sharply. Not the best with stress. But I recompose quickly after. Prolonged stress leads to isolation then complacency in that isolation. "Vanishing off the map", "ghost people" so to speak...


As for the approval of others I do actually have concern for it but more so in the sense of my ambitiousness and image. To make a mark. This, however, is also a 3 thing so I'm not sure how to distinguish the two.

"in average-healthy levels. May not have an awareness of the need to connect in a broader sense with the world, of a sense of security or in groups or of the need to seek it, or even of the need to foster approval, support, and understanding of themselves within groups they are connected with, often causing misunderstandings with allies, supporters, friends, and family members."


I need to connect with my thoughts and ideas but not in the sense of "humanitarian" helpful activities, in that sense I'm fairly self absorbed. Only doing so to be polite if need be not out of some selfless desire. And I don't try to fit in wherever, unless it's my "chameleon" thing activating but it's still me. Just altered and mirrored a bit. I am still very much to my values and extremely individual. If doing things, I'd rather do it my own way. If I'm ever SO like it's strictly goal related(3ish) or to smooth things over (9ish). So I assume I can be sx/sp and still have the 3 and 9 aspects that can make me seem SO'like. Yes?
 

Kanra Jest

Av'ent'Gar'de ~
Joined
Jun 30, 2015
Messages
2,388
MBTI Type
ENTP
Enneagram
4w3
Instinctual Variant
sx/so
SX/SP
Motivation: to know the heart, reconcile inner conflict, form a secure union.
This is perhaps the most internally conflicted of the stackings, and potentially the most inconsistent in behavior. This may occur as a blockage of the sexual instinct which can be redirected as a more generally brooding and troubled personality. They may isolate themselves for long periods of time before reemerging. They live according to a strictly personal outlook and are not particularly concerned with the approval of others outside of their immediate concern. They seem to be searching for something, the missing piece. If they find a soulmate they will unite without fanfare, forming a secret bond, dealing with formalities as an afterthought. Powerful sexual impulses facing inner resistance may manifest symbolically in the psyche, giving way to soulful interpretations of the unconscious. Under periods of stress severe sexual tensions may manifest as erratic, impulsively destructive behavior. Can seem restless, torn between the comforts of a stable home life and the urge to wander. May be prone to self-medicating.
Expression: intense, self-absorbed expression
Energy: intense energy expressed calmly, steadily, assertively
Behavior: intense, assertive, troubled and self absorbed
Mindset: "If I can make (us) have an orderly & pleasing lifestyle, I can keep up and escalate all this merging/intensity."
Blind spot: Likely to neglect their desire to maintain physical safety, comfort, and an orderly lifestyle for the sake of their primary concern of seeking intense connections and experiences, in average-healthy levels. May not have an awareness of the need to connect in a broader sense with the world, of a sense of security or in groups or of the need to seek it, or even of the need to foster approval, support, and understanding of themselves within groups they are connected with, often causing misunderstandings with allies, supporters, friends, and family members."

"SO blind spot - finds it hard to concern self with another’s agenda, dismissive. When the social instinct is least developed, the individual is going to find it difficult to see why it is important to form social connections or to cultivate multiple relationships. This, in turn, can lead to a certain amount of social isolation. As we all must find a niche in the larger whole, those whose social instinct is least developed, can find it difficult to negotiate the needs of the social realm which make this possible. They may feel that connecting socially will cost them something and consider interactions to be draining. They may find interdependence difficult and dependence on others barely tolerable, and thus attempt to attain a type of independence and self-sufficiency which is not possible for human beings. This “false independence” can lead to unnecessary suffering and impoverishment of experience. They would rather act as a lone force, lone wolves, I'm-on-my-own attitude, feeling that they don't need others and others don't need them. Fear of being emotionally crippled, being unable to connect with many people, self-conscious of being socially ungracious. It’s hard to take in the gifts and generosity of others. Projected fear - if I ignore others, they will ignore me. There’s an expectation of humiliation. A desire not to impose self on people in fear of not being wanted or being klutzy."


SX/SO
Motivation: to impact others, question assumptions, challenge convention.
This is the type that exudes the most raw charisma and sexual energy. They may identify so strongly with whatever they're involved with that they often become the symbol of its core essence, and sometimes its lead agent for change. Hardly content with the status quo, this sub-variant seeks to alter the fundamental structure of something while at once embodying it's purest or most extreme form. Possibly attracted to radical views on politics, philosophy, spirituality or creativity that reflect their penchant for testing boundaries. They enjoy pushing other's buttons, especially those resistant to their modes of expression. It's not uncommon for them to have a pet social, political or spiritual cause which they're able to support with heartfelt conviction. May exploit and seek to redefine sexuality to reflect their own colorful and uncertain understanding of it. While prone to exhibitionism, they are strongly attracted to grounding influences which can anchor them and provide stability. Failure to satisfy an especially intense desire for connection may cause this sub-variant to spite others at the risk of jeopardizing the need for an equal, stabilizing force. Can feel pulled between wanting a life of maximum intensity and reassuring episodes of peaceful convention.
Expression: intense, outer-focused
Energy: intense energy expressed outwards, assertively
Behavior: intense, assertive, sultry and aggressive
Mindset: "If I can maintain position and inclusion in the group/world, I can keep up and escalate all this merging/intensity."
Blind spot: Likely to neglect their desire to build their sense of personal value, accomplishment, and security of place with others for the sake of their primary concern of seeking intense connections and experiences, in average-healthy levels. May not have an awareness of the body's need for food or sleep, or of the need to accumulate wealth for reasons of security, or of the need to manage time or resources to establish an orderly lifestyle.


SP blind spot - lack of solid foundation, lack in comfort and coziness, lack in attention to health, maintenance, and personal safety. Such individuals often have a hard time focusing on issues such as financial security or the commitment to the development of practical skills. There is fear is of being an "eternal child" who won’t take care of one-self and expectation of failure in dealing with self-preservation matters. At the same time these people tend to look down on SP-domain and may express cynicism towards it e.g. call it "fearful" and "fussy", state that SP people "don’t know how to really live". When the instinct for self-preservation is last in the instinctual stacking, the individual will often be somewhat ungrounded or seemingly "immature." The more extraverted SP-last individuals often find it difficult to develop a degree of “inwardness.”

The cause for confusion, as such.^ There must be a key factor underneath it all. Aside from that, also a way to define a way to tell apart SO instinctual influence, or a Type 3 enneagram (they can easily be blurred) Annoying to not have an explanation to clear this up.
 
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