Any help with typing me greatly appreciated.

[Agent Washington]

Basically, I've scored all across the board on MBTI tests, and recently I've been discussing with different friends about this MBTI thing. One doesn't know the function, so I've dismissed their opinions, one knows the function and is generally correct at typing at least fictional characters, and the third one seems to know a lot about MBTI but doesn't really know me that well. One of the reasons for this difficulty in typing is that I'm most likely either in the grip or looping a lot.

Anyway, here are the three questionnaires. If the response seems curt or rude, it's because I literally couldnt make head or tail of the question, or I don't think its assumptions are necessarily valid.

Interaction Style:
Informing, responding, chart-the-course.
Temperament is a bit harder because NTs are held up to be this Fountain Of Knowlege, and I do value knowlege, but I also value other things, so it's a mixed bag.

1.

1-what makes you angry?
When there are established rules for certain things and people just can't be arsed to follow them. It bothers me the most when it actually negatively affects me, so to speak, because these rules are usually there for a reason -- they're there to prevent us from descending into chaos and killing one another out of sheer frustration
2-what do you like/dislike most about people?
... they're often loud in a group and hard to read.
3-do you like animals? why?
not particularly. i just don't see the point of having an animal in my life that needs to be taken care of, fed, and all that, and I don't have a stable income or a stable place to provide it with necessary happiness - so investing all these resources to feed another mouth sounds a bit useless to me, especially since i derive limited enjoyment from their. y'know. existence. or interaction. ... maybe i'd like a hen coz they actually give eggs, but they're still so messy.
4-what do you like most about the favorite people in your life?
he is reliable, through thick and think, and has shown himself to be. i don't think anybody else but him could be trusted - small promises maybe, but there's something else to life, more than these small things like showing up for a coffee.
5-what do you like/dislike most about yourself?
...i don't like or dislike parts of myself. i just am. but it would make my life a lot easier if i was nervous a lot less, require less down time, and require a lot less preparation for everything social. as it is, it's not a very pleasant existence.
6-do you care about being fashionable? why/why not?
in some sense, yes, because i want to fit in and look somewhat presentable. but i wholly reject new fashion trends, because it takes resources and time, and honestly a lot of things are either bad taste, or not my style.
7-do you prefer to fit in or stand out?
i'd prefer not to do either if they require additional effort on my part. why should i care what others think about me? unless they're actually paying me. then yeah, it depends on the context - fit in for less friction, stand out in a positive way, that sort of thing.
8-what activities do you enjoy?
...mindless activities in video games, surfing the net. usual boring things.
9-what makes you feel secure?
knowing that things are always there for me. (which, i guess, is very hard to find in an age of change)
10-do you like being in a relationship? why/why not?
it depends on the person. i've been in too many bad relationships to say yes willy nilly. sorry if i'm skeptical. but at the same time, being in a relationship has its perks.
11-what do you love and why? Could be people, things, places, etc...
...depends. there are some things that go beyond love. i'd rather not speak of those. on a more superficial level, i do love chocolate, and despite the bad memories associated with pudding, it's one of the few things i can ingest without feeling ill. people... nah.
i used to like big cities, but these days, they all appear the same to me regardless of their characteristics. probably just capitalism and globalisation at work. i do have a fondness for kyoto and tokyo, the side streets of old beijing, the horrendous yet quaint hill you had to climb in hong kong, but it is only from memory - perhaps being there, now, is different. is that love? probably not.
12-what do you spend the most time thinking about?
...things. whatever topic school has, for classes. it's intellectually challenging, there's no easy answers, and that's where my skills lie.
13-How much have you changed over the years? Who were you as a child?
...i was a quiet child who drew a lot, told stories, and daydreamed a lot. you could probably say the same thing of me as an adult, only i hate drawing now.
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2.

What's your type?
... of people? Of things? of food? my mbti type?
What colour do you like?
...black, on a practical level- it's easy to match and you can't stain it.
What is your favourite personality?
depends on the person. i have a fondness for fictional istjs, especially the ones who are angry for a reason.
Where can you find clams?
n.................. honestly, this is irrelevant to everything...
Are you fascinated by wooden planks?
no
Do people make you fascinated by boats?
how even
Does the number 9 resemble the number 6?
it does when you play dnd.
How are elastic bands made?
...i honestly don't care.
Do you step on the floor tiles only being able to step on the one's that fit into the pattern in your mind?
occasionally, but i try not to pay attention to that anymore.
Do you take your finger and make sure it does not meet a lamp post and only go over it using your field of vision as the picture?
that made no sense whatsoever.
If you put a pig in an airplane does that mean that pigs can fly?
that's just daft.
Did you ever remember the 5th of November?
why this date? why not ides of march? that's just weirdly specific.​

3

1. if you could have one mythical creature as a pet, what would it be?
depends. does it feed itself or do i have to feed it? i'm not about to spend the rest of my life grooming and feeding a dragon. but i'd want a dragon to give me back rides.
2. What do you want to be when you grow up? (yes, written by a 26 year old )
.............. i'd pay you $5 to shoot me right now.
3. If you were a fruit or vegetable, what fruit or vegetable would you be?
i am not.
4. What is your favorite beverage?
vodka
5. You're having a cookout... what do you make?
i don't do cookouts. if i did i'd make barbeque.
6. What's the most recent cool thing you've learned?
...errr... that postcolonial studies are a result of cultural studies intersecting with thematically based literary studies, so to speak.
7. What portrayal of the future do you like the best?
i like speculative fiction, but fiction is not a mirror of reality, so i don't see them as portrayals of the future. future exists only in one form, and that is the real. it makes no sense to cross over either, especially when we know from looking at past portrayals that while some themes may seem universal, that's just because we're humans being human (i.e.; a chaotic mess)
8. You're on death row... what's your last meal?
i wonder if they'd let me die drunk and high. i'd like to get high on heroin once at least, before i die. it'd be intersting, and since i'm dead anyway, i won't have to deal with the negative effects.
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[Presumptuous Pepper]

I'd like to type you but I see one thing in the beginning of the survey and the other towards the end. So, I'm going to ask you additional questions.

When there are established rules for certain things and people just can't be arsed to follow them. It bothers me the most when it actually negatively affects me, so to speak, because these rules are usually there for a reason -- they're there to prevent us from descending into chaos and killing one another out of sheer frustration

Would you say you are rule follower? I don't mean extreme rules and laws like "Don't kill". Obviously, in general, rules are here for a reason. I'm not much of rule follower for example but I will follow a rule that makes sense because I value common sense which contributes to stability. For example, office rules, deadlines for turning in your essay etc. Are you on time? Do you feel those should be definitely respected?

not particularly. i just don't see the point of having an animal in my life that needs to be taken care of, fed, and all that, and I don't have a stable income or a stable place to provide it with necessary happiness - so investing all these resources to feed another mouth sounds a bit useless to me, especially since i derive limited enjoyment from their. y'know. existence. or interaction. ... maybe i'd like a hen coz they actually give eggs, but they're still so messy.

Te-Fi in my opinion.

...i don't like or dislike parts of myself. i just am. but it would make my life a lot easier if i was nervous a lot less, require less down time, and require a lot less preparation for everything social. as it is, it's not a very pleasant existence.

You basically declared you are an introvert. Do you consider yourself an introvert?

Did you ever remember the 5th of November?
why this date? why not ides of march? that's just weirdly specific.

It's Bonfire night. Let em rephrase it for you: Do you remember historical dates? If yes why? If no....why?

4. What is your favorite beverage?
vodka

get a better survey.

i do have a fondness for kyoto and tokyo

me too. (ok this is totally irrelevant for your type)

7-do you prefer to fit in or stand out?
i'd prefer not to do either if they require additional effort on my part. why should i care what others think about me? unless they're actually paying me. then yeah, it depends on the context - fit in for less friction, stand out in a positive way, that sort of thing.

well no we can conclude you are not enneagram 3 and it's really less likely for you to have strong Fe.


Conclusion: please do another survey...this was not very helpful.

 

[Agent Washington]

I'd like to type you but I see one thing in the beginning of the survey and the other towards the end. So, I'm going to ask you additional questions.
Would you say you are rule follower? I don't mean extreme rules and laws like "Don't kill". Obviously, in general, rules are here for a reason. I'm not much of rule follower for example but I will follow a rule that makes sense because I value common sense which contributes to stability. For example, office rules, deadlines for turning in your essay etc. Are you on time? Do you feel those should be definitely respected?

Yes, I think so. Sometimes I stand at the empty road waiting for the light to turn green because it's just easier. Even when there's no cars.
I occasionally get tired of waiting and rationalise that jaywalking is fine due to efficiency and lack of danger. But the impulse is to just follow rules.
(On the same note, I detest rules that not only don't make sense, but are just counterproductive. There's many such laws and rules and so on, and they're incredibly inefficient, and I loathe that.)
I try to be on time, but I have a strange sense of time, so in practise it just leads to a cycle of... ... ... s.a.d.ness because a) nobody likes it when you're not on time, b) i don't like it when i'm not on time, even if other people don't mind. I don't like it when I am unable to adhere to my own personal standards. And I often am unable to do that.

You basically declared you are an introvert. Do you consider yourself an introvert?

In every sense of the word, yes. I would rather be something else, but no point dwelling on it.

It's Bonfire night. Let em rephrase it for you: Do you remember historical dates? If yes why? If no....why?

Guy Fawkes? The weird thing is I don't remember historical dates. If one said Guy Fawkes, that movie with the mask based on the original event, or "beware the fifth of november", it'd simply have more resonance than simply the date itself. (Though I'm not british.)
I don't remember historical dates for a really simple reason: I simply can't remember names, faces, or numbers. If I have another frame of reference, especially a noteworthy one, I might. For instance, 1917 is interesting because it was the November (October? See, I'm bad at this) Bolshevik revolution, marked the end of the Tsarist/provisional regime, and so on and so forth. ...And then I'd get flashbacks of being in school. Etc etc.

Conclusion: please do another survey...this was not very helpful.

Hey man, thank you for your help. I will do another survey. This time, I will put together questions from multiple questionnaires in the questionnaires thread because... Please let me know what sorta questions you'd like to see.

2. Define justice!
A system that results in the enforcement of the idea that all men are necessarily equal.

3. What do you value? What do you value in your environment, in the world, in other people, in dialog?
Tangible things and their utility (eg: Money has the most utility and you can get them in cash)
Environment: Peace and quiet, as well as an agreeable atmosphere with a conducive and supportive environment.
World: Same, but with less people bothering me.
Other people: ...Reliability.
Dialogue: Quality, mostly. People engaging in it have to display a certain mindset of openness, integrity, and there should be an equal opportunity, such as a moderator, to bring about this environment. If somebody simply dominates the dialogue out of sheer charisma or verball diarrhea, it doesn't add anything of worth.

18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?
Depends on the friend. I tend to stay with like individuals, but sometimes there are disagreements. If it is somebody I trust enough, I will openly disagree with them. If it is somebody I trust and the belief is something that openly violates my integrity as an individual, I will ask further questions to determine why they think that way, and evaluate whether or not said friendship is worth continuing. If it is somebody I don't consider important, I don't offer them anything, because I don't want to offer them any ammo to use against me. If I see that there's a reason to say something, I might, if I can figure out a way to say it and get a word in (such as in a class discussion, and participation is valued in said discussion).

19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.
Can't live with it, can't live without it.
There's too many people for me to generalise, and they are often very different, but I don't tend to like most people, and even if I do, they usually don't like me, either. There's that.
There are many prevalent social problems. I've studied history, and I don't want to name one because it'd require me to delve deep into history. I'd have to look at multiple different societies, analyse whether or not the roots are from similar causes, etc etc. And which society are we talking about in what period of time? If we're talking about contemporary... I suppose one problem I've noticed across multiple societies is the tendency to blame foreigners for "stealing away jobs" when I think the root of the problem is linked to globalisation, capitalism and so on and so forth. That to me is a symptom of a bigger structural problem. (Anyway, I know for a fact that talking politics is going to be iffy, so I'm going to just stop right here.)

 

[Vega Vex]

The fact that you are taking many perspectives can point to a P or N. Your indifference can also point to a P or a very, very lax N. U most likely IxxP. Have you taken 16Personalites test? That was my starter point for MBTI. (Surprise, surprise an INTP and ENTP recommended it to me)

 

[Agent Washington]

The fact that you are taking many perspectives can point to a P or N. Your indifference can also point to a P or a very, very lax N. U most likely IxxP. Have you taken 16Personalites test? That was my starter point for MBTI. (Surprise, surprise an INTP and ENTP recommended it to me)

Thank you for the suggestion. Yes, I've taken 16 Personalities and it is one of the better tests that I've come across.

I've looked at another site with functions analysis and I believe functions are way more useful for typing than simply stating the attributes. The reason I haven't added anything here is because I don't want to cause cognitive biases on behalf of the readers. I'd like them to see it for themselves instead of having a preconceived notion.

If MBTI was merely descriptive in nature and not a theory that doesn't explain anything, then it doesn't have any use for me.

 

[PurpleDawn]

Definitely sounds Te/Fi, and leaning towards Intuitive. I'm gonna say INTJ, but I could be wrong.

 

[Presumptuous Pepper]

Yes, I think so. Sometimes I stand at the empty road waiting for the light to turn green because it's just easier. Even when there's no cars.
I occasionally get tired of waiting and rationalise that jaywalking is fine due to efficiency and lack of danger. But the impulse is to just follow rules.
(On the same note, I detest rules that not only don't make sense, but are just counterproductive. There's many such laws and rules and so on, and they're incredibly inefficient, and I loathe that.)
I try to be on time, but I have a strange sense of time, so in practise it just leads to a cycle of... ... ... s.a.d.ness because a) nobody likes it when you're not on time, b) i don't like it when i'm not on time, even if other people don't mind. I don't like it when I am unable to adhere to my own personal standards. And I often am unable to do that.



In every sense of the word, yes. I would rather be something else, but no point dwelling on it.



Guy Fawkes? The weird thing is I don't remember historical dates. If one said Guy Fawkes, that movie with the mask based on the original event, or "beware the fifth of november", it'd simply have more resonance than simply the date itself. (Though I'm not british.)
I don't remember historical dates for a really simple reason: I simply can't remember names, faces, or numbers. If I have another frame of reference, especially a noteworthy one, I might. For instance, 1917 is interesting because it was the November (October? See, I'm bad at this) Bolshevik revolution, marked the end of the Tsarist/provisional regime, and so on and so forth. ...And then I'd get flashbacks of being in school. Etc etc.



Hey man, thank you for your help. I will do another survey. This time, I will put together questions from multiple questionnaires in the questionnaires thread because... Please let me know what sorta questions you'd like to see.

2. Define justice!
A system that results in the enforcement of the idea that all men are necessarily equal.

3. What do you value? What do you value in your environment, in the world, in other people, in dialog?
Tangible things and their utility (eg: Money has the most utility and you can get them in cash)
Environment: Peace and quiet, as well as an agreeable atmosphere with a conducive and supportive environment.
World: Same, but with less people bothering me.
Other people: ...Reliability.
Dialogue: Quality, mostly. People engaging in it have to display a certain mindset of openness, integrity, and there should be an equal opportunity, such as a moderator, to bring about this environment. If somebody simply dominates the dialogue out of sheer charisma or verball diarrhea, it doesn't add anything of worth.

18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?
Depends on the friend. I tend to stay with like individuals, but sometimes there are disagreements. If it is somebody I trust enough, I will openly disagree with them. If it is somebody I trust and the belief is something that openly violates my integrity as an individual, I will ask further questions to determine why they think that way, and evaluate whether or not said friendship is worth continuing. If it is somebody I don't consider important, I don't offer them anything, because I don't want to offer them any ammo to use against me. If I see that there's a reason to say something, I might, if I can figure out a way to say it and get a word in (such as in a class discussion, and participation is valued in said discussion).

19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.
Can't live with it, can't live without it.
There's too many people for me to generalise, and they are often very different, but I don't tend to like most people, and even if I do, they usually don't like me, either. There's that.
There are many prevalent social problems. I've studied history, and I don't want to name one because it'd require me to delve deep into history. I'd have to look at multiple different societies, analyse whether or not the roots are from similar causes, etc etc. And which society are we talking about in what period of time? If we're talking about contemporary... I suppose one problem I've noticed across multiple societies is the tendency to blame foreigners for "stealing away jobs" when I think the root of the problem is linked to globalisation, capitalism and so on and so forth. That to me is a symptom of a bigger structural problem. (Anyway, I know for a fact that talking politics is going to be iffy, so I'm going to just stop right here.)

Most things you say indicate strong Te to me. Your definition was extroverted logic.

If you want my honest opinion, the first thing I thought is ISTJ for you. You seem meticulous about some things like rules and you seem very factual very giving explanations.

 

[Agent Washington]

Let's examine each possibility.
Which are the cons and the pros to ISTJ? Which for INTJ? Which for xNTP?

ISTJ:
Pro:
- Functions match up, more or less.
- It takes me a long time to adjust to changes.
- When I do make decisions that significantly alter my life, they usually turn out to be badly thought through (Sounds like possible inferior Ni/Ne).
- There's a good chance I have a perceiving dom function. Maybe.
Contra:
- I don't relate to any of the ISTJ members anywhere, especially if they're conservative.
- Very little ISTJ descriptions fit me.

INTJ:
Pro: The people I speak to currently online on a regular basis are all INTJs.
Contra:
- I'm more cautious and tend to be worse at directions.
- They are better at big picture analysis, and they are good at putting things into perspective - the perspective which I gain from talking to them. *Unless they're dumb or looping.
- That INTJ ego. Good god. I don't have that.

INTP:
Pro: Possible Ti-Si loop.
- I do use Ti compulsively. When I watch movies, I can't stop analysing them.
- I do have some desire to be socially accepted, which seems to resemble inferior Fe (?).
- I'd probably fit the INTP description on a regular day.
Contra:
- Thinking about what could possibily come out of any given situation makes me anxious as hell and doesn't come naturally to me, especially if it's something that affects me on a concrete level. If I were INTP, Aux Ne shouldn't do this.
- Looking at INTP thought processes, I think they're better at divergent thought processes than I am.

ENTP:
Pro: ?
Contra: Highly unlikely to be an extrovert or extravert. Much less likely to be an Ne dom.

 

[Presumptuous Pepper]

I'll analyse what you just said:

ISTJ:
Pro:
- Functions match up, more or less. - the most important part
- It takes me a long time to adjust to changes.
- When I do make decisions that significantly alter my life, they usually turn out to be badly thought through (Sounds like possible inferior Ni/Ne).
- There's a good chance I have a perceiving dom function. Maybe.
Contra:
- I don't relate to any of the ISTJ members anywhere, especially if they're conservative. --> I usually don't relate to the same type necessarily. When I think "relate", I think that we get along while we talk....things don't have to me similar but we'd still relate...it happens
- Very little ISTJ descriptions fit me. - not one description fits me

INTJ:
Pro: The people I speak to currently online on a regular basis are all INTJs.
Contra:
- I'm more cautious and tend to be worse at directions.
- They are better at big picture analysis, and they are good at putting things into perspective - the perspective which I gain from talking to them. Looking at their skill sets, I doubt I'm an Ni dom.
- That INTJ ego. Good god. I don't have that.

The ego thing is not important. The first argument for pro also doesn't say you are an INTJ.
Based on your pro argument, I could be INTJ then and I'm not. Logic: I hang out with XXXX type = I could be that type (I don't say it's not possible to be surrounded by a similar type but INTJ and ISTJ share functions so that argument can also give evidence for ISTJ. But this evidence is very shaky. I mean think about it...you cannot identify as a certain type based on someone else's type)

More cons then pros....even though I don't find those pros and cons to be relevant at all

INTP:
Pro: Possible Ti-Si loop.
- I do use Ti compulsively. When I watch movies, I can't stop analysing them.
- I do have some desire to be socially accepted, which seems to resemble inferior Fe (?).
- I'd probably fit the INTP description on a regular day.
Contra:
- Thinking about what could possibily come out of any given situation makes me anxious as hell and doesn't come naturally to me, especially if it's something that affects me on a concrete level. If I were INTP, Aux Ne shouldn't do this.
- Looking at INTP thought processes, I think they're better at divergent thought processes than I am.

Ok...now we are back on track. Base ont his, you are Ne and Si user. Now we gotta figure out that Ti vs. Te. Order of functions...if you are older than 25 your Si should be working already...so it's possible to notice it.
Your Si could be your tertiary because in your post you said something like: I have bad memories connected to pudding but I won't get sick. (I haven't quoted it right but I felt this was important back then and now I see it). Tertiary function is often something present but it's not leading us much. You are aware of it but you won't be led by it too much. That sentence sounds like using Si but with a grain of salt. Strong Si users tend to be strongly attached to things that bring them bad memories. Also, they are known to hold grudge because of this.

 

[Agent Washington]

I'll analyse what you just said:

ISTJ:
Pro:
- Functions match up, more or less. - the most important part
- It takes me a long time to adjust to changes.
- When I do make decisions that significantly alter my life, they usually turn out to be badly thought through (Sounds like possible inferior Ni/Ne).
- There's a good chance I have a perceiving dom function. Maybe.
Contra:
- I don't relate to any of the ISTJ members anywhere, especially if they're conservative. --> I usually don't relate to the same type necessarily. When I think "relate", I think that we get along while we talk....things don't have to me similar but we'd still relate...it happens
- Very little ISTJ descriptions fit me. - not one description fits me




The ego thing is not important. The first argument for pro also doesn't say you are an INTJ.
Based on your pro argument, I could be INTJ then and I'm not. Logic: I hang out with XXXX type = I could be that type (I don't say it's not possible to be surrounded by a similar type but INTJ and ISTJ share functions so that argument can also give evidence for ISTJ. But this evidence is very shaky. I mean think about it...you cannot identify as a certain type based on someone else's type)

More cons then pros....even though I don't find those pros and cons to be relevant at all



Ok...now we are back on track. Base ont his, you are Ne and Si user. Now we gotta figure out that Ti vs. Te. Order of functions...if you are older than 25 your Si should be working already...so it's possible to notice it.
Your Si could be your tertiary because in your post you said something like: I have bad memories connected to pudding but I won't get sick. (I haven't quoted it right but I felt this was important back then and now I see it). Tertiary function is often something present but it's not leading us much. You are aware of it but you won't be led by it too much. That sentence sounds like using Si but with a grain of salt. Strong Si users tend to be strongly attached to things that bring them bad memories. Also, they are known to hold grudge because of this.

For the purposes of this, let's assume that I'm either old enough to have developed the tertiary function, or looping enough for the tertiary function to overshadow the auxillary function.

That's because I don't see a case for me being INTJ. Any pros and cons I could come up with for something I don't see the case for will be semi-relevant at best.

Let's narrow it down a little to what I think may be relevant, functions wise. I can see a case for me being ISTJ, or INTP, OR ISTP. The problem with this is that I seem to use Ti and Te in somewhat equal amounts. I've heard feedback about me looking like I use Se, too (...Mostly from someone watching me play video games).. ..

In daily life, Te is often skipped over because of anxiety about multiple possibilities; Te requires one to act; I require things to remain stable. Acting necessarily indicates that things won't be stable, or known. This is where Ni/Ne comes in.

I also use Ni (for big picture analysis), but it doesn't come as easily as INTJs (Ni dom) do, and it's guided by a whole lot of other things. I use Ne as well, but when it appears, it's incredibly unhealthy. So, I don't see the case for Ne-Si either - more Si-Ne.

Your Si could be your tertiary because in your post you said something like: I have bad memories connected to pudding but I won't get sick. (I haven't quoted it right but I felt this was important back then and now I see it). Tertiary function is often something present but it's not leading us much. You are aware of it but you won't be led by it too much. That sentence sounds like using Si but with a grain of salt. Strong Si users tend to be strongly attached to things that bring them bad memories. Also, they are known to hold grudge because of this.

I see what you mean. The thing about tthat questionnaire is that it doesn't really help - though it does give a good starting point.

...I hold grudges up the buttocks. There's a logical reason for this, which often leads me to wonder if it's just a Ti+Inferior Fe thing or an Si thing. If somebody violates what I view as fundamentally important to my values, and, at large, act in detrimental ways to society, I will hold the grudge against them for repeating that behaviour, especially if they continue to deny it. I may not express it, because I generally hold myself to a high standard of behaviour, and I have my own code of ethics to adhere to. But believe me, the grudge definitely is there, and I'll hold it for as long as I can remember. If I don't hold the grudge, it's because it went over my head, or because I don't think it's "worth" the effort (i.e.: I know it's a one-time deal that I can do nothing about; if it's a multiple-time deal that I can do nothing about, I'll hold the grudge, it just won't show because there's no means to deal with it.)

For the example of a pudding, it's mostly just because I genuinely enjoy the taste of pudding, and there is one bad memory associated with it. There are things that I can think of that has too many instances of bad memories associated with them - locales, for instance, especially my own home back during my teenage years, that simply being there is enough to bring up these memories.

I'm open to the idea of Ti-Si OR Ti-Ni however, because I know that I use Ti a lot. This is crucial to my understanding of theory. This leads me to wonder if I actually do use Ti that much... I'd have to say I don't know whether it qualifies as Ti, or Si-Te. I have an internal structure, an idea of the world, that I adhere to. I built this idea up painstakingly from observations about the world, often via forms of empirical knowlege and scientific studies, even outside my field. Yet, in the field of theory, it's easy enough to understand and not get bogged down by details, and often I don't hold them up to empirical truths (though empirical proof really does help in proving the case for any theory). As a case in point: I'm starting to see the internal contradiction in the idea that 'functions' are necessarily stacked a certain way. When I look for external sources of proof, I don't see much - just one marginally useful study in neuroscience. But this is also where I admit my expertise may lack, because I'm not a psych major by any means. Also, I admit that I may be holding onto this theory for irrational reasons (i.e.: due to time invested in it,d ue to wanting it to work or be applicable for SOMETHING, due to familiarity, promise of community (???), lack of other interesting things to do, and so on.)

In terms of functions that I seem to use most often, they are:
Ti, Te, Se, Si, Fi (Probably)

Functions that I use least often, and when they show they usually show in various unhealthy ways. But they really do have an impact.
Fe, Ni, Ne

...In short, this is why I have trouble with typing myself. xD

 

[Agent Washington]

Stole this meme from here. Putting it under spoilers because it's long, features a lot of impatient yelling about stuff not making sense, and ... I honestly don't know why I didn't stop; I think it's because the Fe/Fi part was actually decent and then I just invested way too much time into it to stop.

Fe vs Fi test

1.Are you more about people and social connections” (Fe)? Or personal values, authenticity and identity” (Fi)?
Fi

2.Do you believe that individual development is important, but social masks are necessary? Masks are ultimately tools. One can convey their true self through moving along with the current than against it (Fe)? Or everyone is entitled to be themselves, free of the nuisance of social convention. Conforming may be better for short term effects, but the ultimate goal is to see individual development (Fi)?
Fi

3.Do you work best with the emotions of others (Fe)? Or work best with your own emotions (Fi)?
Fi

4. Do you notice how you make others feel (Fe)? Or do you notice how others make you feel (Fi)?
Fi

5.Do you show your empathy through saying confirming language such as “Oh no,” and “Aw,” (Fe)? Or exposing your own experiences and struggles as a means of letting the other person know they’re not alone? (Fi)
Fi

6.Do you believe in global morals, or/and conform to group morals (Fe)? Or do you believe that everyone is one-of-a-kind and has their own set of values, just as you do yourself (Fi)?
Fi (Practically speaking; Ideal is Fe but unachievable)

7.Do you have empathy more on a global level, such as empathy for the human race (Fe)? Or empathy for a group of people you feel your values and experiences are related to (Fi)?
Fi

8.Would you say “I will do what I think is right, because doing otherwise would do harm to others around me (Fe)? Or I will do what I think is right, because doing otherwise would be inauthentic to who I am as a moral person (Fi)?Examples: You are against adultery because “I would hurt the people I love” (Fe) or “It goes against my ethics” (Fi)? You are against illegal downloading because; “I will set a bad moral example” (Fe)? Or because “I am not a thief” (Fi)?
Fi

9.Do you prefer to create an atmosphere of harmony and where everyone is “getting along” (Fe)? Or creating an atmosphere that coincides with your inner values; regardless of whether everyone is ‘feeling alright’ or not (Fi)
Sure, as long as I don't have to deal with their rubbish, and it's usually always going to be rubbish. Fe is more useful. (Fi I guess)

10.In a spat, do you appeal to the whole group in an “everybody settle down” kind of way, apologize and compromise to keep everyone happy (Fe?)? Or stubbornly stick to your guns because someone violated an issue of importance to you, and probably latch onto one individual and either calm them or remove them from the situation in an attempt to neutralize the situation? (Fi)?
Fi

11.At a park, are you more Extroverted Feeling (Fe)? You make sure everyone feels involved and has their needs met. Does everyone have a buddy? Nobody should be alone! Let’s go to the bathroom first, okay? How do we feel about hamburgers for lunch? Is that okay? Let’s meet over there, shall we? Does everyone know the plan, so no one is left behind? Let’s take a vote on which direction to go first! Fe will go on a ride it doesn’t like so a friend doesn’t have to do it alone.

Or Introverted Feeling (Fi)? You decide which direction to go based on what is important to you. I’m going on this ride. No, it’s okay, I can go by myself. I don’t need you to come along unless you want to. I’m serious. I’m not afraid to do it alone. I’m not feeling the burgers, either. You all go ahead. I’m going to dash over to that taco stand. Nope, not going on that ride. You can beg all you want, I won’t do it. I’m scared of heights. Not a chance, bud. Drop it.
Fe is the ideal because it's fair (and that's important to my values), but Fi is like. Why go in a group then.Neither

Te vs Ti test

1.Are you more about applying logic/organization to your external world (Te) or inner world (Ti)?
Implying either makes sense. Neither.

2.Are you more about execution and effective organization (Te)? Or ideas and logical understanding (Ti)?
Ti

3.Are you more about organization for efficiency, by the book, like to make things happen, and systematic (Te)? Or about analyzing everything, taking things apart to know how they work, and checking for accuracy or inconsistencies? (Ti)
Te (academic discipline requires me to do this, and I find it much more ... rigorous. Ti is slow and overcomplicated and risks running in circles.)

4.You have a gadget in front of you. Do you take the gadget and see what you can do with it? See what results you can achieve with it? Ask how can I make this happen? And what external impact can it cause? (Te) Or do you take apart the gadget to understand the parts or essence of it. Do you ask how does the gadget work? Is this accurate? Is this consistent? (Ti)?
...Why the fuck would I do that. What kind of gadget is it? Is it cheap? Is it mine? So many questions. My reaction would be context dependent.

5.Do you want to USE information (Te) Or UNDERSTAND it (Ti)?
BOTH?????

6.Do you want to figure out how things can get done/results focused (Te)? Or understand how things are and fit together/ knowledge focused (Ti)?
Mildly depressed, so don't care. But both are important.

7.Do you like to come up with a decision and stick with it (Te)? Or always open for new insights and ways to perfect an idea (Ti)?
...What has either got to do with the other? Te is open to changes pending new evidence, right? Otherwise it's virtually useless.

8.Do you organize your bookshelf by tallest to shortest books (Te)? Or favorite to least favorite books (Ti)?
Oh for fuck's sake.

9.Do you focus on organizing things into a unified whole/look at how things relate to one another (Te)? Or focused on separating things into their unique parts and classifying things (Ti)? Example, who are you in this conversation? Hubby (Te) or Wife (Ti)
Hubby: I want to go to the blue hardware store.
Wife: I want to go to Lowes.
Te

10.At a park, Are you more
(Te) busy organizing others and coming up with “battle plans.” Which direction do we go first? Give me the park map. Okay, where do we want to be by noon? When and where do we meet for lunch? Who is in charge of watching the kid? Which rides do what? When is the bus leaving? What do we have time for? How long are the lines? Okay, everyone who wants to go on these twelve rides, line up to the left! Everyone else to the right! We meet back here at 7pm! No stragglers! Does everyone have their phone on? Good!

Or (Ti)? busy analyzing how the rides work and what makes the most sense. If I go this way, the path winds around past what I want to see, and by the time we’re to meet up, I’ll have been all the way around the park. I won’t have to walk back, or rush from one side of the park to the other. Wait, why are they all walking in the opposite direction? Don’t they know this is the logical way to do it? If you go that way, you’ll engage in needless walking and won’t be able to get through the line in front of the House of Mirrors

Too broke; didn't go. (I mean from experience usually I'll follow whoever paid for things, so. y'know. I'll do Te if nobody else does it, and Ti sounds annoying af.)

Se vs Si test

1. Do you listen to the same music over and over again because "It's the best music out there?" (Se) or because "I just always have-habit? (Si)?
60% Si 40% Se

2.Do you notice all the details of the present moment? Do you notice all of the tiny details in a painting? (Se)? Or do you notice the present details but compare them to past experiences? (Si)
Too much fucking brain power; not gonna bother.

3.Do you tend to want immediate gratification and new hands on adventures/experiences (Se)? Or get stuck in an outdated routine, want tradition, are nostalgic, and relive past experiences (Si)?
Si

3.Are you about being spontaneous (Se) or rules and regulation (Si)?
Rules? Seriously? I mean,I assume this means "do you prefer structure or do you prefer to just act without planning" and I'd have to say Si, but this is just. Really. Rules. And Regulations. Wow Si users confirmed for Best Citizen Award.

4.How do you handle a new situation? Do your senses shift through data and identifies what is the most relevant and most critical in the current situation. Do you seize opportunities as they present themselves? Do you troubleshoot and seek a tactical advantage? (Se) Or do your senses relate the present situation to past experience? Do you ask “how did I handle something like this last time”? Do you evaluate similarities and differences? Do you apply proven techniques to the challenges of the current circumstances? (Si)
...I go "can I find the solution on the internet?"
...Probably Si

5.Do you look for external sensory experiences such as roller coasters, scary movies, race car driving? (Se) Or internal sensory experiences such knowing how your body feels during Yoga or immediately knowing when you are full (Si)?
Si; my old man heart hasn't been able to take a roller coaster since I was 12 and looked down into the engine of the thing.

6.Do dress with a flair of boldness; have a keen eye for aesthetics, and have an enjoyment for the finer things in life (Se)? Or is your style traditional and conservative? (Si)
...Traditional and conservative? Really???
Seriously???
Does it come with an extra potluck???

7.Would you say “I can tell that’s a car because it has wheels, it’s moving, it looks like others cars, it’s made by Ford” (Se) or “Cars in my mind are always purple, therefore that moving vehicle is not a car” (Si)?
... You realise Si is like "I can tell that's acar because that's a goddamn car" and not some fucking stupid reason right?

8.After a long day at work do you put on a new movie (Se) or a movie you’ve already seen (simply for the familiarity and nostalgia) (Si)?
...At this rate, nobody is going to fucking get Si dom.

9.While in a forest do you notice the rich detail in the whole forest - the trees, their color and texture, their sounds, their smells, the pattern of light and dark... (Se)? Or note that this forest has always been here and recalls being in a forest from childhood, smelling that smell and the fun of playing hide and seek behind the trees... (Si)?
Both

10.You are at a park. Are you more
(Se)? You are busy noticing all the details of the park and the people in it. Sights. Sounds. Colors. Oh, cool. That ride flips upside down! I’m going to try that. Do you smell those hotdogs? Aren’t they great? I think we ought to go bungee jumping… it’s only $50 for a group of $12! Which way is the Tower of Terror? I’m going to ride down it and watch all you sissies wet your pants when it drops 50 feet in 12 seconds!

Or (Si)? relates everything around them to past experience. Last time I was here, I threw up on that ride; I’m not going on it again. Oh, hey, that’s the bench I sat on when so-and-so kissed me! Oh, good, the line is shorter this year. Why does this slushy taste different? I think they put less cherry cola in it than before! I feel ripped off. OR… I’ve never been to a theme park before, but that Ferris wheel reminds me of that scene in The Notebook, when Noah won’t take no for an answer, until Allie agrees to go on a date with him…

Fuck the Notebook. And at this rate, I'm never going to a fucking park becaues goddamn it why the fuck does this keep recurring. Somebody has a fetish for clowns or something?

Ne vs Ni test

1.While in a forest do you think of the fractal patterns, the wide range of possibilities in the forest, how this forest is part of the ecosystem and is affected by pollution from the city... (Ne) or Recognize that the forest is deeply symbolic of all of life in its interconnectedness and constant recycling and growth and foresees that this forest will soon be torn down for a housing development... (Ni)?
...Neither.

2.Do you have an explosion of ideas, symbols, and possibilities (Ne)? Or do you find one idea and build on it over time (Ni)
Ni.

3.Are you more about possibilities and randomness (Ne)? Or insights and purpose (Ni)?
Ni.

4.Is your speech scatterbrained/about multiple topics (Ne) Or more streamlined/ talk about one thing at a time (Ni)?
...Ni.

5.Do you want to go out and try all of your ideas (Ne)? Or be selective with your ideas (Ni)?
Ni.

6.Is your thought process non-linear (Ne) or linear (Ni)?
Ni.

7.Do you brainstorm out loud (Ne) or keep ideas to yourself (Ni)
Ni.

8.Do you focus on “what if's” or “what could be”? (Ne) Or having an “aha moment” (Ni)?
... Now you see, the Ni/Ne questions are a bit more. ...Logical.I hate this fandom I want to resign and get my retirement salary
ANyway
Uh
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How the hell do you focus on having an aha moment though. constipation?

9.Do you find broad shallow symbols and patterns (Ne) or deep symbols, and patterns (Ni)?
Alright this was written by an Ni user. Rip Ne

10.You are at a park. Are you more
(Ne) sees the possibilities of the park. Look at those two people. You can tell they’re not “together” anymore, but just hanging out for the kid’s sake. See their body language? How many rides are in this park? Do you think anyone ever died here? I think they should put a new ride in this space. Call it the Haunted House of Horrors, and have Dead Presidents in it. You know, they could put up an entire haunted SECTION of the park. That would be awesome. Who do I call to pitch that idea? Stay away from the guy in the red hat. He gives me vibes. Ooh, you know, I could write a story about a murder in a theme park! He could die because the Tilt a Whirl malfunctioned. No, no, because the Tower of Terror ride didn’t stop, it crashed the elevator to the bottom floor! His sister did it. No, his uncle! No, the theme park guy, because he’s freakin’ insane.

Or (Ni)? You know what will happen before it happens. I’m going to take a step back, because that kid is going to spill his slushy all over – yup, there it goes. I know which ride I want to go on. I’ve thought about it all week. I’m going to have an awesome time on that ride. I’m going there first. Wait, there are other rides? I didn’t even notice! I was busy fixating on getting to the head of the line! Marsha better not go on that thing, she’ll hurl—yep, there she goes.

FUCKINGH PARKS