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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    Read around my back issues heh, you'll see I've had much the same story. I've overcome the social anxiety now and am more easily recognizable as a true extravert, but even just 5 years ago you wouldn't have imagined I was the same person. And yeah, it was mainly social anxiety. I preferred being away from people only BECAUSE I had no social skills, so things went wrong. It wasn't because solitude genuinely recharged and energized me like it does for an introvert.
    For me. it's not so much social anxiety as it is social retardation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edcoaching View Post
    So, you can be a shy Extravert who hangs with just a few friends but still hates to be alone. Or, you can always be doing things--tinkering, cleaning, biking, etc. rather than sitting still for stuff. AND you can be a social Introvert who loves people but can only handle so many for so long before being totally drained.
    Yup. That's really it.

    And sometimes the functions get reversed for whatever reason, in terms of usage at least. Some INTPs have depended on Ne more naturally when they interact with others and keep their Ti very separate from their social interaction (since Ti is more liable to make waves and that can be bad if you are conflict-avoidant because of "nurture" issues). If they also have developed their Fe some, you can get a natural introvert that can do the social thing adeptly... but they get exhausted by the interaction.

    I would suppose that ENTPs who are forced to deal with hardcore thinkers and punished for being too N might withdraw and be able to spend lots of time alone, even if they don't prefer it. IN that case, it was the environment that was unsatisfactory, NOT the preference for Ne.

    One tie-breakerL: how long could you go on silent retreat? Many I's could spend days at a secluded cabin, and go back again and again. Many E's would love a few hours or even a day and would then be ready for action again.
    Yeah, that is what happens with me. It's easy for me to be alone. I'm also the sort of person who never goes into Yahoo Messenger or who always leaves myself invisible... and the few times I forget and start getting peppered by people on my Friends list, I feel smothered and wish I had been invisible... even if I like them.

    I for example prefer Introversion but love talking to people in elevators just to see their reactions...
    That sounds like a wonderful new game we can play:

    1. "I love talking to people in elevators to see their reactions when I <fill in the blank>."

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    It took me a while to type an ENTP friend of mine because I initiated more conversations with him than vice versa. But he worked on the inwards goods where I worked and this meant he would get random bits of material and package back from merchants.

    As soon as he got this stuff the first thing he would do would be make to something out of it. He soon set up an "Arts and Crafts" bin that keep these little treasures for future use. It was the instantaneous way that he manipulated these objects that made me realise he was an ENTP not an INTP.

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    And here's the same robot advertising Jim's Sexy Toothpaste.

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    I guess we'll never know.

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    My, thanks for all the answers.


    Quote Originally Posted by 563 740
    Thanks for starting this thread, Kora.
    I hope it helps you too.


    Quote Originally Posted by 563 740
    For me. it's not so much social anxiety as it is social retardation.
    But what's the difference, at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer
    And sometimes the functions get reversed for whatever reason, in terms of usage at least. Some INTPs have depended on Ne more naturally when they interact with others and keep their Ti very separate from their social interaction (since Ti is more liable to make waves and that can be bad if you are conflict-avoidant because of "nurture" issues). If they also have developed their Fe some, you can get a natural introvert that can do the social thing adeptly... but they get exhausted by the interaction.
    Yes, that's what happens to me. If I'd say what I really see and think, probably I'd be always arguing. I rather use Ne for having a smoother way. The problem is that I seem to use my Ne for everything, even for 'systematizing' (gee, did I spell that right?) emotions and feelings, but now that doesn't have anything to do with the issue. Even though, I still use a lot my Ti. TiNe is a great axis for me.

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    And here's the same robot advertising Jim's Sexy Toothpaste.
    Oh boy, lol.

    I guess I'll have to watch me more and see what could be my preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kora View Post
    But what's the difference, at all?
    After reading Wikipedia's definition of social anxiety, I guess not that much. I don't really get anxious/nervous so much as uncomfortable/awkward. I think part of it is too much Ne; it's running through all the potential scenarios (instead of just the one I'm in) when I'm talking with someone I don't know very well. God forbid someone "surprise" me with small talk - I tend to go totally deer-in-headlights when the cute cashier unexpectedly tries to chat me up. It's like Ne comes up with 3 or 4 responses all at once and none of them can make it out...
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    I was a shy ENTP growing up, and I thought I was an introvert. I didn't even suspect I might be an extravert until I was in college, and even then it took me a while before I solidly concluded that I am an extravert. I really do get my energy from the outside world, but it took me a while to figure that out since I spend so much time in my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    I really do get my energy from the outside world, but it took me a while to figure that out since I spend so much time in my head.
    Heh, I realized yesterday this is probably the case for me as well. It was a gorgeous day and I wanted to go for a motorcycle ride; unfortunately none of my riding friends were around and I ended up just dicking around online all afternoon. I always just blamed it on being lazy but I realized now that I pretty much do need people around to get me started/keep me going on things. Every single home improvement project of mine has gone nowhere fast until my Dad finally said "We'll be there Saturday at 10AM, you'd better be ready to get some work done!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kora View Post
    I like social interaction, and I have two or three friends which I always talk in MSN, and can last hours and hours with some short breaks, and if I let some days pass without talking to them I miss them. But IRL I can only stand about five hours before needing doing things alone.
    I'm not sure what would that mean.
    That's introversion, then. You may not be very introverted, but an extravert would be energised by those hours spent with other people in real life, and might need time alone after a few days of socialising, not a few hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by 563 740 View Post
    Heh, I realized yesterday this is probably the case for me as well. It was a gorgeous day and I wanted to go for a motorcycle ride; unfortunately none of my riding friends were around and I ended up just dicking around online all afternoon. I always just blamed it on being lazy but I realized now that I pretty much do need people around to get me started/keep me going on things. Every single home improvement project of mine has gone nowhere fast until my Dad finally said "We'll be there Saturday at 10AM, you'd better be ready to get some work done!"
    Oh yes, I recognise that feeling. Very much me. I'm not very motivated to start things myself unless I'm totally desperate for some external stimulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I would suppose that ENTPs who are forced to deal with hardcore thinkers and punished for being too N might withdraw and be able to spend lots of time alone, even if they don't prefer it. IN that case, it was the environment that was unsatisfactory, NOT the preference for Ne.
    I'd personally say that you're right on with this. Certain environments cause me to withdraw easily, and they tend to be environments where the Ne/Fe combo I like to work with are not the most expedient...heavy thinkers, heavy judgers.

    I only realized I was indeed an extravert recently, and the above is definitely part of that realization - I will withdraw in "hostile" environments, but I don't enjoy withdrawing. I want to be in the action, and when I can't find an inroad I get frustrated.

    So basically, yeah, you can be extraverted but fit the pop-psych definition of introvert. Plus, if you've been in an environment that doesn't suit the ENTP personality and your social skills aren't ace, you might have reverted to withdrawing and thus appear more like an introvert.

    To experiment, I'd say try to make yourself go out and do some extra activities and talk to more people and see how you react.

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